FEP17 Tending The Heart

Emotions such as grief and heartbreak can lodge in our hearts. Join us for a discussion of flower and gem essences to heal your heart.

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Show Transcript

Kathleen Aspenns [00:00:42] Welcome back to the Flower Essence Podcast. I’m Kathleen Aspenns and I’m here with Rochana Felde. And today we’re going to be talking about the heart. So many flower essences can be incredibly helpful for all the issues revolving around our hearts, around our emotions, our feelings, things like grief. There are so many topics that are directly related to the heart. We’re going to start off with some issues about the heart chakra, talking specifically about how to work with that. And I know, Ro, that you’ve been really focusing on that in your study of Ayurvedic medicine. 

Rochana Felde [00:01:19] Hey, Kathleen. Yeah, it is something I’ve been learning a lot more about recently, and I’m excited to start bringing more of that perspective into my practice with the heart chakra. You know, there’s seven major chakras of energy centers in the body (for those who aren’t familiar with that). And the heart is one of them. You know, in the middle, it brings together the lower chakras and the upper chakras. And it really is the center of our being, sort of the still point. It’s called the on Anahata – the Sanskrit word for the heart chakra. And, you know, a lot of people think about the heart as a center for love and relationships. And it is. But it’s not the sort of sexual love that we might think about. It’s not dependent on outside stimulation. And it’s more about experiencing a state of being within. So it’s about bringing love and compassion to whatever comes into our field, and cultivating that rather than it being something that is about desire and will. So this energy center can be closed or too wide open and we want to strive for balance with it. When it’s closed we can experience breathing issues, you know, like a constricted energy in our chest center, and we can energetically think about it in terms such as the lungs and breathing issues. Also, grief really lives in the heart. And, you know, if you think about when you feel grief, you hunch over and you close in to protect your heart. Or, if you’ve experienced a loss the same is true. Those are some of the ways the energy center manifests with our whole body, our physical energy. And unchecked, it can result in, or feed some physical issues that might be going on with the body. Also circulatory issues, et cetera. At the end of the show, I’m going to do a little heart breath visualization, so stay tuned for that. But in the meantime, the flower essences are just wonderful to be working with this energy center, and especially the roses. And I know that you have made quite a few rose flower essences for your Flora of Asia line. And I’ve also made quite a few. And I can’t wait to talk about and get into more depth about what the different roses are and how they can help the energy center of the heart chakra and some of the emotional issues that come with that energy center. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:04:28] This is a great topic, talking about the roses and also the Rosacea in general. A lot of them have an affinity to the heart, but certainly the family of roses are really important. And these are the roses, of the genus Rosa, that we’re talking about primarily. The first one that the originator, Dr. Bach, made, the Wild Rose, which is Rosa canina, of hedgerows in England. And it has a very pale pink color and it’s routinely used as an herb. The hips are used for herbal medicine purposes, as a vitamin C supplement in the cold seasons. But the flowers are this beautiful cloud of pink. And Dr. Bach talked about Wild Rose being helpful for heartbreak, and despair, and loss. And so that first initiation of the rose into the flower essence world was speaking to topics of the heart. And since then, many other essences of different roses have been created. And we can really flesh out this whole topic surrounding care of the heart, let’s say, and working with the area, whether you’re thinking about it from the chakra system, or whether you’re thinking about it more philosophically, as matters of the heart, or even if you’re thinking about it from Chinese medicine, where the Heart is an incredibly important organ system, not just physiologically, but also for the health of the whole body. If the heart spirit is disturbed, if the shen is disturbed, nothing else works properly. Your whole health is impacted by disturbed shen. One of the things that I think is really interesting, from the Chinese medicine perspective about the heart is it’s supposed to be an open and spacious and calm environment. And I think that there’s a real difference there in maybe a more Western idea of what the heart should be, which is, you know, maybe warm and open and, you know, loving. And yet, from this sort of classical Chinese medicine perspective, it’s this space that allows emotion to flow through without disturbing its integrity. So you can feel great joys or great sorrows, but they only disturb your shen when they become so much that they throw you off. So there’s an interesting quality there that your heart just can become so spacious that you can experience everything, feel everything, and allow it to continue flowing through without it throwing you off balance. And I see that as being a really interesting aspect of developing your heart’s resilience and developing your heart’s capacity or spaciousness when working with these rose essences and other essences as well. Do you have a take on that? 

Rochana Felde [00:07:39] Yeah. And it’s a well, it’s interesting that you use the word spaciousness a few times because at the heart chakra is ruled by the air element. Do you know if there’s an equivalent element for the heart in TCM? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:07:59] It’s a fire element, but it’s not like fire. (KA I’m not explaining it well here – the image is of a hearth, so warming, but not excessively hot) It’s considered to be part of fire in the cycle of elements. It’s five parts. But the funny thing is, for the heart in Chinese medicine, the element that damages it is (excess) heat. So it’s the warmth of fire, but not heat. So there’s kind of an interesting ground in there. 

Rochana Felde [00:08:32] Yeah. I always like comparing those two modalities that Chinese medicine and Ayurvedic philosophy’s, I like that we have both his perspective in our work. You know, there are two ancient philosophies that have really stood the test of time. And there’s so many similarities just with some slightly different terms or, you know, a little different take on pretty much the same ideas. When I compare them I like matching them up and seeing what matches, and what doesn’t and when it doesn’t. There’s usually a reason that makes sense from what I’m seeing so far. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:09:18] Yeah, you’re right. I see it as a different lens to view the world through. And so you might just be taking a shift 90 degrees to the right and then look through a slightly different lens at a different angle of it. But the phenomenon we’re describing is the same. So it’s intriguing to see how those two things are similar and yet a little different. And sometimes it’s a matter of if you talked about it enough and get into it enough, you’d find that they’re really tightly aligned, even though our short descriptor of what element it is might be different in the two different systems. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:09:56] But we could start talking about some of the roses. I guess the first topic is why are roses affiliated with the heart? If you look at it from sort of a western mythological approach, you’re certainly looking at why they’ve always been affiliated with with love. They’ve always been affiliated with the center. If you look at it from Chinese medicine, the summer is the season of the Heart organ system. And so there is a definite affinity there with summer blooming plants, of which roses are certainly summer blooming. So there’s an affiliation there. Is there an affiliation in Ayurvedic medicine around roses and the heart? 

Rochana Felde [00:10:44] Well, Ayurvedic medicine is primarily about managing the constitutional types Vata, Pitta and Kapha. And it classifies plants in terms of their herbal energetics. The chakras are primarily managed through meditation and life breath practices called Pranayama. That being said, rose is a well-known flower of love and devotion. And so it’s used in devotional practices. Herbally, it’s classified as sweet and cooling. And it’s used to reduce Pitta, or overheated conditions, which I find is interesting since you mentioned the heat being detrimental to the heart. In TCM and in Ayurveda, I believe there’s an affinity of the heart with the emotions and with the Pitta constitution. There’s so much in all cultures that use rose and you know, it has always been associated with love. You know, the whole time. I mean, that’s not anything new that your corner florist made up for Valentine’s Day. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:12:08] Commercialized versions, that variety. 

Rochana Felde [00:12:14] So it’s been used in love magic and it’s been used to signify love. And the different colors of the roses have different meanings going back a very long time. So it’ll be interesting to explore that. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:12:31] Yeah, let’s dive into that concept of the colors as being affiliated with different topics. The essences that I’ve made from my Flora of Asia roses are in a range of colors. They’re all species roses. So none of them have been bred by humans to have selected characteristics. These are all right out of the wild. So the colors that they have are integral to the species. And I think that’s an interesting element there. Because the cultivated roses, the roses that are hybridized and created by humans, are bred and selected to have a certain type and shape of flower and color. So I’m really interested in your perspective for this as well, because when I’m working with a plant, working with a rose to find out what message it has and what healing qualities it has, the color is not something that I look at first to derive a meaning or intention behind the plant. So it’s kind of interesting to me when I meet with people who maybe focus on that more because it’s just not where I’m coming from. And I find that different colors might fall into different categories. If I look back at them and figure out after they told me what they’re all about, I might go, oh ok that might relate more to this aspect or facet of the heart. But do you have a perspective on that? 

Rochana Felde [00:14:07] Well, yeah. You know, when I first started making Flower Essences, I let the flowers tell me what they were about. And it became a pattern that I recognized over time. That seemed to match up with color theory, color magic theory that you know, where white is more about purity and pure love and purification, and pink being more about self-love and self care and then going through to red. And that being a more divine love. So it sort of matches up with the color theory that I’ve learned about. But with the roses, I’ve noticed that also wild versus cultivated has a difference. And now I haven’t worked with species roses other than the wild roses, the California Wild Rose and the Sweet Briar rose. And of course, the Bach Wild Rose. But I haven’t, you know, made an essence with Rosa canina. So the wild roses, they’re very different to me than pretty much all the other roses. And I feel like part of that’s the color part of that’s the signature with the five petals and the simple, simple five petals, meaning there’s no layers of petals. Right. And the fact that they’re wild. Now you’re working with a lot of wild species. But the wild you know, the ones that I’ve seen basically popping up in the middle of cow pastures in Sonoma County. You know, here you have a pasture with pretty much not much else on it except for really vigorous thistles and things that the cows won’t eat. Those are the only things that will make their way or, you know, have some longevity in that pasture after the cows or other animals have had their way. And the blackberries, you know, the wild rose, it’s a hedge. It has this amazing physicality to it. And to me it has more affinity with the physical aspects of our heart. Meaning the emotional, sort of earthy emotions, the depression and the apathy and the just not having that sense of loving the self. I’ve noticed that with the Sweet Briar Rose. And that is similar to FES’s California Wild Rose and the Bach Wild Rose. They’re all used in that similar fashion. Have you noticed that correlation with those types of roses? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:17:16] Really interesting thought. I’d never articulated it that way, but I think that you’re right from my perspective. I’m in alignment with what you’re saying. That’s very interesting because I hadn’t thought about it that way. But I say that is also my experience, when you run it through that filter. So I guess I would agree. I love your idea about the white roses. One of the roses that I use over and over and over and over again is the Lady Banks Rose that’s a wild white rose that has the most perfect little five petaled flowers. And to your point of the single nature of a wild rose, the roses that we often see in our gardens have been bred for what’s called doubling, which means that there are multiple layers of petals in there. So when you see those big, ruffly, fabulous cabbage roses and such, those are not something that are going to occur in the wild. You’re only ever going to see the five petals in the roses. So I think that’s an interesting designation. We know that to not be a wild trait. It’s a human cultivated trait. What the Lady Banks Rose has this incredible quality of helping you enhance self-love and self caring and self-acceptance. It has this incredibly pure quality that I just think of as.. The keywords are just unconditional self-acceptance, that you are just fine the way you are. And I don’t know about you, but I need to hear that message kind of a lot. And so you’ve worked with the Eglantine Rose, the Sweetbriar. That’s a white flowered usually isn’t it. It’s sometimes I was a little hint of pink? 

Rochana Felde [00:19:16] No it doesn’t. It looks very much like the California Wild Rose. You know, I wasn’t sure what the difference was when I first started working with it and was able to learn how to identify the differences. And it has a unique scent. So the flower looks almost exactly. It’s got that light pink five petal signature. And it also has very large rose hips that can be used medicinally. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:19:55] I just remember the Rosa eglantine that the foliage smells like apples. And if you crush it just  smells so good. So that’s always been a distinguishing characteristic in my experience with that species. 

Rochana Felde [00:20:11] Thank you. That’s exactly where I was. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:20:15] That’s OK. We can share our minds. I know my thoughts sometimes wander off too. So continuing on the white flowering topic. One of the ones that I work with, Wingthorn Rose is a white flowering rose as well. And the wildly distinguishing characteristic of this one is this one only has four petals, which is extremely unusual in the roses. They all have five petals except for this little dude. And this is such an interesting rose, because it just encourages you to get on with things. It blooms really, really early. It’s probably starting to bloom right now sometime in February. And it goes into hip by May. You know, when all the other roses are just thinking about blooming. So it has this energetic quality of  “let’s get on with this thing”. So I use it with clients who’ve just been hung up on something for a really long time to help them, to change this story. “Let’s move on. We can do this. We can get over where we’re stuck on something.” That’s the Wingthorn Rose. It’s really a cool rose. 

Rochana Felde [00:21:35] That’s really interesting. I did not know that there was a four petaled rose. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:21:40] It’s very surprising. It does its own thing. It’s definitely rosacea, but it has four petals. So that’s something kind of crazy. 

Rochana Felde [00:21:50] I just wanted to briefly mention a white rose that I have and I don’t know at all what kind of rose it is, except it’s a climber. And it is growing here in Cazadero right up a redwood tree. That it’s probably a good 30 feet up that tree and might be bad for the tree. I’m going to have to  do something about that if I want the redwoods to thrive. But it’s amazing when it blooms because it basically puts white flowers all through the redwood tree and then over the crown, I think it probably blooms in May. And yes, I made a May Day flower essence with it. And it sprinkles it’s little petals everywhere. It’s a very small flower. They just rain down, you know, like confetti as the breeze moves through the tree. And it’s magical. It really is. So I have no idea what kind of rose. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:22:52] I’m pretty sure that’s a Lady Banks. It’s probably that cultivated variety. I forget what the cultivar name of the white one is. (KA – Rosa banksiae var banksiae) R. b. Lutea is the golden one which I’m sure you’ve seen growing over, you know, eating trees as well. It has multiple petals, it’s doubled. It’s not five (single) petals. It’s very doubled, like a little puffball, and very fragrant. Usually the the yellow one does not have a fragrance, the white one does. And it will definitely climb straight up a tree and envelop it. And it’s not usually harmful unless they’re just literally too much weight for a tree. A rose is not a strangler. It has the quality of.. what we call thorns. But botanically they’re called prickles. And the way that the rose adapts to climbing and rambling is,  it basically has grappling hooks, those prickles or grappling hooks. So it sends up a cane and then grips onto something, grips a hold of something with those thorns. And that’s how it helps itself climb, rather than a vine that twines like Wisteria. And that can definitely strangle a tree. But roses generally don’t really harm the tree unless it’s just a structural issue. It’s not going to damage it by choking it out. So, enjoy!  

Rochana Felde [00:24:30] And the energetics from that to me, I experienced a lot of lightness of being and releasing heaviness, clearing my mind. I just felt really washed clean by that experience of making that essence. So I sort of attribute that to the white and also the height, you know, that it just grows so high if it has something to climb. Perspective. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:25:01] It offers a perspective. Yes. So that’s the cultivated version of the Lady Banks that I make. So that’s kind of cool that we’ve experienced both of them from slightly different angles. Very cool. And so we could slide down the slide down the color scale towards the warmer, the pinks are sort of my next stop. And we could talk about some different types of pink roses. And clearly the California Wild Rose and even Dr. Bach’s Wild Rose has traces of pink. And I would be thinking the pinks as a group are more working with hurt emotions, and emotions in the heart. Do you think that’s where you’re coming from? 

Rochana Felde [00:25:47] Yeah, definitely. That nursing a heart ache or heart break. One thing I I heard about the heart chakra. You know, it’s color associated with it is green. What it also has is pink on the opposite side. So the green can be looked at as giving love, and the pink can be looked at as receiving love. So these pink roses can help in receiving love, whether that’s from someone else or from yourself. And I like that a lot because it really works with the self-care, self love, self-compassion theme that we see with some of these wild rose flower essences. 

[00:26:39] Mm hmm. Cool. That fits right in with the China Rose that has a beautiful, very soft pink flower. And the keyword of the China Rose is boundaries. It’s openhearted but don’t let somebody walk over you. You know, roses are really good at setting boundaries. They’re really good at enforcing a boundary. You don’t walk through a rose, do you? Nobody does that without getting scratched up pretty well. So they’re effusively open and sharing and giving. Yet with a nice, solid, clear space, you know, you don’t get to step on my roots. You don’t get to run over me. You don’t get to crush me. I’m going to hold my space. And I think that particularly that rose, in my experience, has done a great job of helping people to manage those issues around holding one’s space. Do you have some pink roses, some warm pink roses that you have made as essences? 

Rochana Felde [00:27:39] Yeah, I have some others that I have not identified. Some of these are hybrids that have  gone back to wild or not. You know, it’s very hard. I don’t have that horticulture background that you have. But when I started trying to identify roses, it’s one of the harder plants to figure out for me anyway. So I have a pink at this property that I’m at now. There’s a pink climber that also goes up some of the trees, just not as far as that white one, and a low growing one that’s more like a Centiflora. From what I can gather those two are also, you know, working with tending the heart. I think that pink climber, it seems very fragrant and so delicate light pink. It’s got a grandmotherly energy. It feels like it’ll take care of your heart and give you a little buffer of pink light, cushioning you from grief and fear and anxiety. The other one is a darker pink, more blushing or true pink. And it’s got a lot of petals. I thought it might be a cabbage rose or something like that, but I really I’m not sure. I’m going to have you come over and help me identify these roses. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:29:14] That’s a tough thing. There’s a whole group of people that rescue these old roses from farmsteads. And it’s such an interesting thing that some roses have been brought back from relative extinction through people who really get into rescuing old and vintage roses.

Rochana Felde [00:29:40] Yeah, it’s fascinating because when I’ve done research online, you know, there’s these lineages of where they came from, these hybrids, and how they come down from the ancient varieties. So it’s really fascinating. So, the darker pink rose, I I felt like it was more of a blossoming. It’s this intermediate expression from. If you think starting out with a white, and the purity of that, which eventually culminates into this full dark red, what I call a Christ ray sort of energy, this blushing pink is sort of about becoming yourself. It’s like the energy of new love. It’s that intermediate expression. And that’s what I saw. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:30:46] Hmm hmm, interesting. Yeah, but it’s so cool how these coloration variations… and then the spirit of the plant can show up in healing different facets of these inter-related topics. The next one that I’m thinking of is my Willmott’s Rose, which leans a little bit more towards the magenta color. And so it has this quality like some of the magenta flowers do that help to re pattern broken places. They help you to re-knit the field of what’s been injured and heartbroken. In this case, it has.. you were using that term grandmotherly. It also has a very grandmotherly quality to it as well. It’s just that warm, compassionate hug type of energy. And that’s kind of cool that you’re seeing it too. You know, the more it gets into the warmer pinks, then you get a little bit more along those lines. That’s kind of cool. 

Rochana Felde [00:31:52] Yeah. And then I don’t know –  that one pink rose felt very grandmotherly to me. And then the other pink rose felt very youthful. So it’s great to work with these devic energies from the plants. And there’s another sort of midway color that I have. I call it a peach rose and it’s probably a floribunda, it’s pink and yellow. It’s a double flowered type. And that one has a really different energy bringing in that yellow. Yellow is about joy. And there’s energy combined with that sweet, caring, innocent of the pink. And to me, that culminates in this outward action of bringing the pink out. Yellow is the color of the third chakra, and our identity and how we are out in the world. So combined with that pink, the color signature of this rose spoke as compassionate action. So taking that compassion and putting it out in the world in some sort of action, you know, working well with new beginnings, and new projects, and optimism is a theme from this rose. It told me that love is an action, not just a passive emotion. So if you are expressing love, feeling love is giving love. If that makes sense – giving love is feeling love, they’re interconnected and that you can take that love. You know, the ultimate expression of love is taking it, putting it out into the world. And the yellow of that flower helps you do it. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:33:54] That’s an interesting concept that bridges that third and fourth chakra where it’s not just a passive thing. It’s actually more active. That’s a very interesting idea. The Gigantea Rose that I make is also.. It’s golden and it’s a very large, large flower and five petaled. One of the, you know, nerd alert plant nerd alert, the the cool things about learning about the Chinese species is that the colors available to European plant breeders up until the roses from China were introduced,  were a range of white, pink, little bit purplish and crimson. It wasn’t until the bloodlines, the stud roses they call them, from China were introduced and available to the breeders that the colors of gold and orange were introduced. So all of those flowers that we see in our gardens today that are in those peachy tones, in the golden tones, those are all due to the bloodlines that came from the wild Chinese roses. So that’s just kind of a nerdy side bar that I think is fascinating. 

Rochana Felde [00:35:20] We should have nerd alerted at the very beginning. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:35:24] Yeah, I think probably we should put a nerd alert warning at the very beginning of the show, maybe even a badge or something. There is also the aspect of remontancy, the re blooming qualities are all out of the Chinese bloodlines as well. The wild Chinese roses introduced that to the plant breeders. 

Rochana Felde [00:35:46] What was that term again? Can you repeat that? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:35:48] It’s remontancy. Which means the rose will bloom more than just one time in the summertime. And, you know, for most gardeners, if you had a rose that bloomed only once and then not the rest of the year, you’d shovel prune it because it’s just not performing. And that’s how it used to be until these bloodlines got introduced. So I think that’s interesting. 

Rochana Felde [00:36:13] That’s really cool. I didn’t know that some bloomed once a year and some had multiple blooms. I did not know the term. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:36:20] Thank you. So put that in your pocket. It’s a scrabble word. Only your plant nerd friends will know what you mean. But you’ll sound slightly cool. 

Rochana Felde [00:36:33] Have we talked enough about color? Do you have another color loaded up that you want to talk about? 

Rochana Felde [00:36:37] I want to just quickly mention that I had a red rose, which was identified as the root stock, the Dr. Huey rootstock, which is used as the base for so many of the hybrids that people buy at the nurseries and bring home. And over time, if you don’t cut the suckers that come up, it will revert back to its original root. And from an energetic standpoint it is interesting. Rose gardeners hate it. I think it’s so cool from an energetic standpoint, because here I have this rose that’s been neglected or not “cared for properly”. And you know, what’s wrong with those roses? They’re beautiful. They’re a deep velvet red. They have an incredible fragrance. Why would you try to suppress that? The plant energy of its roses is telling us that. It’s reminding us that we have this magnificence that we were born with, and we can call upon that and bring that up into our heart at any time to return to our true authentic self. So I just absolutely love that one and I love the the energy around that. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:38:01] And it brings up that quality of rootedness. I think that a lot of times we think about roses and the heart and it all seems very kind of up in the air and kind of squishy, that’s my word, squishy. But really, love is rooted. Love is grounded. Love is, like you’re saying, action. Love is solid. And the roses really teach us those qualities of solid, grounded, boundaried, heart open. But you’ve got to have a strong foundation. And the roses are really good at teaching that they’re not wishy washy. Yeah, the quality of the thorns, it’s going to teach you not to be wishy washy. Roses can do amazing things. They’re not delicate little creatures. And and neither is your heart a delicate little creature. You know, the petals might fall off and you might need a year to recover. But it has this restorative quality that each year has that hopefulness, that good things can happen for you. You know, we were talking about roses, roses, roses. But we have to talk about some gems for the heart as well, because there’s something really in alignment about using gem essences or gem elixirs with the heart and helping to heal the heart. I think you agree with me. 

Rochana Felde [00:39:27] I do agree. Yes. So clearly, we have to start with Rose Quartz. That’s on the top of both of our lists. Absolutely. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:39:36] It’s a classic. The Rose Quartz, the way I see it, is for restructuring the heart that’s been sort of beat up by life, challenged, heartbroken. All of these aspects. And Rose Quartz is one of the gem essences that I always use with a little bit of.. Trepidation? Is not the right word at all. But I usually mention some level of a warning or an awareness with it because Rose Quartz gem elixir, at least the one that I use with the Alaskan essences, it can create this sensation in your heart, like a literal sensation in your heart or heart chakra, of undenting. So it feels weird, but it’s a part of that healing process. And so sometimes if people have had their hearts really shut down and closed off because they’ve been wounded, having that stirring, having that field feeling different can feel a little disturbing or scary or startling. And I usually like to let them know that they might experience that if they’re taking Rose Quartz. 

Rochana Felde [00:40:50] I’ve heard that I’ve heard a personal experience of that from a colleague, but I haven’t experienced it myself. So it’s really interesting. And I think you’re right, it may come into play more when there’s a lot of that’s been closed off and it’s sort of really making some structural energetic changes. Yeah. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:41:14] And it’s something to just you know, I just like to mention it to people because I’ve had more than a few clients tell me that they’ve felt that and that they really appreciated that they were warned in advance that they didn’t think something was wrong. It’s just the worst thing to have a heart opening and to think, oh, my God, I’m dying here. It’s like, no, no, this is a heart opening. It’s a healing process. It’s good to have some movement in there. It’s salutary. What other gems do you love to use? 

Rochana Felde [00:41:43] I really like the Watermelon Tourmaline. And that has got both the pink and green ray. So there’s a lot of balance. There’s balancing happening there. The bringing together the yin and yang polarities. And I have the Alaskan Essence’s one, but I also have my own watermelon tourmaline gem, you know, have the physical gem, the energy of it is beautiful. And in studying the heart chakra and looking at that, that concept of the pink and the green, and the green is the giving of love. And that pink is the receiving of love. I see the energy of the pink.. You know, it’s kind of like you have to love yourself before you can love others. You know, you can’t really skip that step. Bringing love into your body is what’s necessary in order to truly express love in a positive, healthy way. To someone else or to the world or whatever, so that watermelon, that pink and green combination also, you know, there are bicolored tourmalines that are not necessarily the watermelon shape, but having those two colors together is something really powerful and magical and balancing to me. So that’s one that I really like to use. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:43:25] Yeah, I always think of the keywords of the polarity in love, you know, the give and receive, that openness, that inward and outward. Yeah, the Watermelon Tourmaline is incredibly helpful for that polarity as well. One of the ones that I use a lot with working with the inner child, and the heartbreak of the inner child, is Mangano Calcite. That’s another one from the Alaskan Essences. It just has such a sweet, gentle energy. It’s so non challenging to the heart. I know over the years I’ve worked a lot with inner child work and with self-love. And for me, some of these bigger guns like Rose Quartz felt a little bit overwhelming at first.The Mangano Calcite felt really soothing. So it’s an option for those whose heart has been quite closed, to be a really gentle matrix to start that process of healing the heart. 

Rochana Felde [00:44:31] That’s beautiful. Yeah, I like Jadeite Jade as well. I think it’s important that it’s the true jade. Which has been used well, it’s been used classically.. in Chinese medicine physically, right, as the pendant that is worn over the heart. And it’s very important in that case that it’s touching the skin and it creates this resonance of warmth with the skin. And maybe you can speak more about that. But I’ve always loved that about jade and it’s calming, centering effect. I’ve been attracted to it since way before flower essences and always noticed that about it. So I’m now using it as an essence. It’s wonderful for formulas that need that calming, balancing, sort of “grounded in the heart” feeling. What do you think about that? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:45:33] Oh, yeah, totally. That having that contact of jade over your heart, on your skin, there’s just something incredibly soothing about it. I have a pendant, a carved Quan Yin pendant, that’s made from jade. And that combination is just.. I wear it so often. The minute I put it on, I just.. Okay, take a breath. I can just feel that heart soothing, calming energy and then with that energy of the goddess coming through as well. It’s just so perfect in every possible way. So having the gem essence as part of a formula to give you that grounded, soothing, okay in your body… It’s a great addition to pretty much any formula, but certainly when you were talking about the heart, really on point. I would love to throw one more in that I just feel like I cannot not talk about a little bit. The Whale essence from Jane Bell’s Essences from Hawaii. It’s a nature essence made in collaboration with the spirit of the humpback whale mama. And it has this incredible, huge heartfull energy of the whale’s heart. The heart of the whale is one of the largest hearts on the planet. You know, I think the blue whale’s heart is the size of a baby elephant. It’s like, wow, crazy big. And so their field, if you think about when they’re swimming out in the ocean, they have this heart field that projects out so far. And the way that the mama whale helps her calf after the calf is born. She has to pick it up with her body and help it come up to the surface to breathe and so the quality of whale is just so warm and loving and and it’s just love in action. It’s that quality of nurturing the young, and helping them come up to the surface and and nurturing them along the path to independence. And this Whale essence is just so much the embodiment of love from the ocean, from our whale ancestors or co ancestors or what have you. It’s such a cool essence. And anytime that there’s an issue around the heart, I always think of using whale. 

Rochana Felde [00:48:05] That is just beautiful. And there’s such a mothering energy to that. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that one. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:48:13] It was imperative. You offered to share with us a beautiful meditation. Do you feel like you want to dive into that at this point? 

Rochana Felde [00:48:22] Yeah. Yeah. I think we could do that. It’s a few minutes and we want to make sure that those listeners who are driving, perhaps not closing your eyes. But if you’re not driving, you may have the opportunity to close your eyes and then get into this. But really, this is a visualization. You don’t actually need to close your eyes, except it does help with the visualizing. So it’s up to you. But what it is, it’s called the heart breath. And it’s an exercise that is taught by Nikki Skully, who is a healer and shamanic teacher who specializes in Egyptian mysteries. And she has a book called Alchemical Healing. But it’s also a core practice that she teaches in all her books and classes. And its purpose is to just quickly and powerfully bring ourselves into alignment with the earth and sky while feeding our heart with love and then doing this alchemical visualization where we grow our heart flame and then feed our body with this universal life force or love force. So we just want to start by taking a few deep grounding breaths in and out and just feel your feet on the floor to make sure that you are getting that grounding feeling. And then we want to find the eternal flame that dwells in the sanctuary of our heart center. See it in our mind’s eye and feed it with love. So we’re gonna pour love into that heart flame and feel it grow and spread warmth and light in our body. 

Rochana Felde [00:50:06] Now focus your awareness on the center of the earth. And then inhale that earth energy, drawing up the power and vitality of the earth from the earth and through your body. Into the heart. So take an inhalation breath, bringing that earth energy up into your heart. And hold it there for a second. And while you do that, mingle the intelligence and strength of the earth with the love that you’re pouring in your heart flame and then exhale it out. And when you do that, just imagine it going into every cell of your being, radiating out from your heart center and nourishing your body with vitality and intelligence, life, force, energy and love. 

Rochana Felde [00:51:04] And then we’re gonna do it again. So inhale, taking another strong earth breath into your heart flame. Hold it and mix it with your love. And then exhale into every cell of your being. Now keep breathing, and then extend your consciousness upward through the sky toward the heart of the cosmos. The great central source and all that is and now inhale all the blessings of the universe down through your crown and into that heart flame. Hold your breath a moment to join this cosmic intelligence with the power of earth in your heart. Let it mingle and feed your heart flame with more love, then exhale out again, radiating all that love, power and intelligence. Now from both the earth and the sky out to every cell of your being. 

Rochana Felde [00:52:09] And now with this visualization. And it might take you a few times to get the hang of it. You’re going to visualize both earth breath coming up from the earth and the sky breath coming down from the sky simultaneously to meet in your heart. So breathe in and let that both come from below and above. Meet in your heart. Hold it. Mix it with your heart flame. Feed it with love. Seeing it grow and then exhale the lifeforce energy out to every cell of your body. And we just want to do it a couple more times. So inhale both the earth and the sky simultaneously into the heart. Hold it and mix it with the heart flame. Feed it with love. See it grow. Exhale out to every cell of your body. 

Rochana Felde [00:53:10] And you might want to do a few more of these until you feel in alignment with the grounded power and intelligence of the earth and the exalted intelligence of the universe of the cosmos. Let’s do it one more time. Inhale. Hold it and mix it. Exhale. And do you feel that centeredness and that power in your heart center that is now infused into your whole body? And when you’re done and you feel complete with this exercise, just take another minute to ground yourself before going on with your day. You can do this by wiggling your toes or rubbing your feet on the ground, taking a few breaths and directing them back down through your body and toward the center of the earth. You can imagine a cord connecting your root to the earth. I like to imagine a seat belt where I just click it and strap in for another day in the third dimension and I can go then go about it in a completely balanced, beautiful and strong way. So I hope you enjoy that. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:54:31] Thank you for sharing that with us. That was a lovely meditation and inner experience. That’ll be a fun thing that we can do is to share some of these skills that we’ve learned over the years of doing this kind of deep soul work. I’m excited. That was really lovely. Thank you for sharing that. 

Rochana Felde [00:54:50] Glad you liked it. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:54:52] So we’ll draw to a close here. And we really want to thank you for joining us in working with this topic of the heart and how flower essences can help us to heal, to grow our heart capacity, to grow greater compassion and love for yourself and for others. So thanks for being with us. We really appreciate you. And we really appreciate you reaching out to us. We’d love to hear from you. We love to see your comments and respond with them on Facebook and Instagram. And we’d really be grateful if you’d share this podcast or this episode with a friend. I’m sure you know somebody who would enjoy it, too. We welcome you and for the next time and we look forward to seeing you sometime in the future.

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