FEP30 Embracing Sensitivity with Rochana Felde

Show Notes:

In this episode we turn the spotlight on Rochana and her work with the Highly Sensitive Person. Her personal journey as an HSP working in the corporate world informs her practice as she helps highly sensitive souls turn their sensory challenges into superpowers and thrive in an insensitive world.

Flower Essences discussed during the show:


Elaine Aron, author, The Highly Sensitive Person 

HSP Quiz https://hsperson.com/test/

Judith Orloff, author, The Empath’s Survival Guide

Empath Quiz: https://drjudithorloff.com/quizzes/

Find more Resources for Sensitives on Rochana’s website.

Show Transcript

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:00:41] Hi, flower lovers. It’s great to have you back on the podcast. Today is going to be a special spotlight on my pod partner, Rochana.

Rochana is a certified herbalist and flower essence practitioner who specializes in working with highly sensitive souls to turn their sensory challenges into superpowers and thrive in an insensitive world. Prior to this work, Rochana worked in corporate tech for several decades, and the challenges of being highly sensitive in this environment informs her work, where she creates custom flower essence blends for clients and provides holistic, integrative coaching to address nervous system overstimulation, healthier habits for stress management, and strategies for managing sensory stress in the workplace and at home. 

Rochana is a graduate of the Herbal Academy and the School for Evolutionary Herbalism. She’s had flower essence training from David Dalton with Delta Gardens, Sarah Crow at Floracopeia, Deborah Craydon at Flora Corona, Cynthia Kemp Scherer at Desert Alchemy, and Judith Poelarends at Alaskan Essences. She also has extensive aromatherapy training, shamanic journeying training and apprenticeship, and has received certifications in transformational and integrative cognitive-behavioral coaching. Is there anything you don’t do, girl?

Rochana Felde: [00:02:05] Well, a few things, but I do like to branch out.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:02:10] Well, you are certainly well-rounded, and I think that really serves your clients well. And I’m really glad to be talking about your work today on the podcast. We’ve been wanting to talk about this topic of the highly sensitive person for a long time as this is your specialty. This is your field of interest, and it certainly is informed by your personal relationships with this topic. I would love to know a little bit about what we mean when we say what is a highly sensitive person.

Rochana Felde: [00:02:45] Yeah, of course. So it refers to sensory processing sensitivity, and this is work that was originally researched by Elaine Aron, and she’s written several books about it. And it, in a sense, means that it’s people and it’s not a disorder. So it’s not the same as sensory processing disorder. But it is a way that about 20% of the population relate to the world. 

It’s really the core trait. It’s considered a personality trait that is inherited and genetic, and that it came about as an evolutionary advantage, and it’s even in 20% of animals as well, roughly. But the core trait of it is depth of processing. So what that means is we just tend to, and I say we, because I am a highly sensitive person, which is why I went down the rabbit hole with it. And it’s really about thinking deeply and really processing like thinking about things from every angle, internalizing these thoughts and information, noticing patterns and storing those and kind of cataloging them and comparing them with past experiences. It can make people more intuitive because they might know something without knowing how they know. But it’s because we do this. We tend to just sort of notice everything. And there’s also some other criteria for being highly sensitive. 

And the way Elaine Aaron lumps these things together, she does have a self-test on her website. So that’s a really easy way to know if you’re highly sensitive is to just go and answer some of those questions. And she categorizes them into four areas. So the one is depth of processing.

Another is emotional reactivity and empathy, so the emotional, not reactivity, but responsiveness. So it’s really experiencing the emotions, the higher highs and the lower lows. And positive experiences can be really positive for us, but negative experiences can be even more negative for us maybe than other people. And then, with the empathy part of it, it’s been shown that our mirror neurons, which is a more recent discovery in brain science, but that’s what we have, everybody has, mirror neurons that help us relate to other people. And if we see them in pain, we know what they’re feeling, that kind of thing.

Another arm of this piece is sensory sensitivity, and that is where everything involved with our senses, what we see, what we hear, what we smell, it’s a little bit more intense like the strong smells, bright lights, loud noises can really agitate us or set us off. And it doesn’t mean we have necessarily better vision than other people, but it means we might just notice more with our eyes or see things, the connections and things that other people might not see. But it’s interesting that it does really, for me, become a very physical sensitivity.

The fourth thing is overstimulation. So obviously, somebody who is dealing with processing everything more intensely and being more affected by their senses and the noises and the lights that might have more of an emotional reaction to all the things going on around us, we get overstimulated really quickly, really easily, especially in environments that are complex, that have many of these things happening or that just go on for too long so we don’t have the stamina to hang out as long in these environments.

So that is DOES, D-O-E-S, the depth of processing, the overstimulation, the empathy, and the sensitivity that are the hallmarks of this trait of being HSP.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:07:47] Wow. Really interesting. I’m glad that you’ve gone so deep into this. It’s not something that I’ve really ever explored. I’ve sort of heard about it, but I’ve never read into it. But listening to your breakdown of it, I’m thinking check, check, check. And I’m willing to bet that a lot of our listeners are also feeling that way as well. I would be inclined to think that people who are interested in flower essences are probably pretty heavily weighted towards this population.

Rochana Felde: [00:08:20] Absolutely. I mean, I think most people who are attracted to flower essences are on that spectrum of sensitivity in some fashion or another. Another hallmark of HSPs is being more sensitive to, what I would call, chemical medicine, whether that’s pharmaceutical or even herbs. The body seems to not need as high of a dose or might be skewed to having more of an adverse reaction even. And so that’s another reason why flower essences are such a great thing to have in the toolbox for the highly sensitive person.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:09:03] Wow. Yeah, absolutely. I think that this is really insightful, and I really appreciate that you’ve done all this work on this. And how did you come to the place of learning about this and exploring this? Tell us a little bit about your story in life.

Rochana Felde: [00:09:22] Yeah. Well, I mean, I always knew that there was something– I thought there was something wrong with me for most of my life. And that’s a common story that you’ll hear from most highly sensitive people. And so I knew there was something different, but I went through my life and got into– as an adult, I was really good with working in tech and business and doing analysis. So I became a business systems analyst for a large corporation and then eventually, a programmer.

And when I look back on that now, I know that being an analyst was kind of second nature to me because that’s the way my brain worked. My brain really liked to dive in deep and see all of the different facets of information and put together stories for what that means to be able to interview people in that world. There’s a lot of customer interviews to find out what they say need in a computer system or an interface. And I was always really able to just be intuitive and elicit that information from people who weren’t part of that world and didn’t really know how to create a computer system. So that’s where I kind of was able to turn this sort of intuition and this ability to process information into a plus for me.

But the minus was working in that world and working in a corporate environment, also as a woman, in buildings that were very brightly lit with fluorescent lights and maybe there were a lot of phones ringing, or it’s very high stress. And so I did not know how to manage that at all. I had no tools in my toolbox for managing stress. And as a young person, I basically turned to drugs and alcohol. I was a binge drinker on the weekends. And I eventually got into taking antianxiety medication because I just had no tools for managing the stress. 

So long story shorter, I will say that it’s been a journey. It’s been a long journey that’s been full of a lot of challenges. But once I started to realize that I needed better ways to manage my stress, and I found herbs and flower essences and other kinds of support, and I started making healthier choices for my life, I started to accept the parts of myself that I never would allow– I’m also an introvert. And so once I started to accept that, I wasn’t so hard on myself for not being able to go out in social situations and sort of do what other people were doing and burning the candle at both ends.

And I realized that I just had to do what I needed, what my body needed. I still didn’t know about HSP at this time. So it’s only really been in the last, I don’t know, five years that this started becoming something that I became aware of. And once I read Elaine Aaron’s list and started reading her book, it just changed my life. And that acceptance of finally realizing, oh my God, there’s not something wrong with me, this is a real thing. And not only is it a real thing, it’s not just about trying to manage the overstimulation. It’s something that I can really revel in these gifts. They helped me in my earlier career and they help me now. And when I realize what I need to use these in a positive way and not get overstimulated by them, that’s where the sweet spot is. And that’s what I like to help my clients find as well.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:13:52] Yeah, there’s so many, and I’ll say, women, because I think probably your practice is like mine where we do mostly work with women, although certainly not exclusively. But it is a real challenge to be sort of a normal person working in a normal job in a normal office environment. It’s really a stressful situation, whether you’re sensitive or not. But certainly, if you’re sensitive, it is kind of a minefield of toxicity, of emotional toxicity and power dynamics, and then just the simple fact of, you’re in this artificial environment and you have to show up every single day based on a schedule that you’re not setting, it’s really a challenge. And it’s no surprise that so many people have to resort to sort of trying to manage their life the best they can in whatever way they know how.

And I love that you’re able to help sort of gently guide them into ways that are more healthy for them, that are more appropriate. And I’m assuming that you’re not coming from sort of an abstinence only kind of approach. It’s more like, hey, let’s move this in this direction if we can.

Rochana Felde: [00:15:05] Yeah, absolutely. I mean, for me, it’s about finding healthier tools and not having any judgment. I mean, we do what we do to survive. And if we can do better in that sense, then that’s the goal, so. I mean, I don’t work with people with severe addictions. That’s not my wheelhouse. 

But when I first started using flower essences, I was using Rescue Remedy to help get off of antianxiety meds. And I didn’t know anything about flower essences really or all of the other options that there were. But I felt like that was a huge part of me being able to react more appropriately to triggers and stresses. 

Whenever I’d get thrown off, I would use some Rescue Remedy, and that seemed to help me a lot. So instead of grabbing for a little box with a pill in it, I used the Rescue Remedy gummies. And so it’s the same, grabbing a little box with a gummy, I just replaced that habit and started to pay attention more to what the triggers were so that eventually, I got better at digging in deeper and finding what those triggers. 

But in the beginning, it’s just, let’s get an array of tools and start to look at how we can replace things that might not be so healthy with things that are better. But with the flower essences, you get the extra added benefit of it. 

Really, I look at flower essences to kind of taking your hand and leading you on a path. And so there’s a gentle, catalyzing action and that leads to the next step. And then that leads to the next step. And then, that’s your ally on a journey, whether you know you’re starting a journey or not, I look at the Rescue Remedy as the first ally for me that I had.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:17:31] Yeah. And I’m sure that you recommend that, like we do, to anyone we meet as a wonderful starting place and a wonderful interruption of a cycle that is a deleterious one in moving it into a better way. And it’s not just that it’s sort of a treatment kind of a thing where it’s changing temporarily. It actually is working on deeper levels. So it’s not the same as if we just interrupted sort of a chemical component with an energetic one. We’re also building a level of health in the person that’s taking it.

Rochana Felde: [00:18:11] Absolutely. And then also, I use herbs for managing the nervous system and that way, our nervous systems, everybody is pretty much overstimulated right now, especially, but in one sense or another in our society. Our society, by its nature, is overstimulating, as we’ve talked about quite a few times on our podcast before. But with the highly sensitive person, it’s even more intense, and I can feel it when my nervous system is taxed. I don’t know how to explain it exactly. But there’s just a physical feeling of that and herbs and, well, foods, lifestyle, all of it play into that. 

But there’s some great gentle herbs that most people depending on– herbalism is individual to the person’s constitution, and they should work with somebody or take into account their contraindications before getting started on any kind of herbs. But there are some kind of general ones that are widely used and have a long, safe history of use and most people can tolerate. 

And those would be things like Skullcap, Ashwagandha, Passionflower, Chamomile, Milky Oats, Olive. Some of those are are what’s considered neurotrophic restorative herbs. And they not only help calm the system, but also rebuild damage. So we’re getting a lot of damage from stress and toxins, and this can help rebuild it for having that strength. And that’s a little bit of a backbone that I like to make sure that people are at least aware of, even if they don’t choose to follow the herbal medicine path. It is absolutely a great thing to have a few things like this that they can put in, what I call, their toolbox to cope with the world and in conjunction with flower essences.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:20:35] Yeah. And I love the gentle approach as well. There’s so much in the world that wants us to just sort of willpower our way through it, gut it out, and you’re weak if you’re feeling all of these things or if you’re not managing it just simply through the willpower down. And the essences and the herbs are just, they’re sort of bottom-up, right? They give you more capacity for being in your body, for being in the world, and your stress levels are reduced just because you’re being supported in this way. 

What you were talking about a little bit earlier was you’re starting to become more attuned to what’s setting you off, and that can give you more choices for, ah, I’m going to absent myself from the situation for a little while while I reset, or I’m going to change this pattern because it’s not doing me any good.

Rochana Felde: [00:21:35] Absolutely, yeah. I like the way you put that. And in the process, it’s also about learning to manage these things, managing your environment. So it’s not like taking a flower essence is going to change the way the fluorescent light is glaring on your screen and causing fatigue to your eyes and headaches. Now, flower essences might help you not overreact in a way that might make you look bad at work. They might help with your emotional acceptance of the situation while you start to address that. 

In my work, I have stories of– I was the person who would request to have the fluorescent lights above my cubicle turned off, and I had to do this every time I moved cubicles and make sure that my cubicle neighbors were okay with it. And I got a letter from my eye doctor that it was hard on my eyes. Before blue blocker glasses became the rage, a decade ago, I got glasses that had a anti-glare and a blue-blocking tint that I’m wearing them right now actually. They look a little bit yellow. And that’s the reason why. And so I had to learn how to work the system so that the system could work for me.

Now, if I had approached that by just complaining to my boss or my neighbors that I just can’t stand it and then becoming grumpy in all my interactions, that could have been very easy to do, but that would have hurt me in that job, in my reputation in that world. So I learned how to get the doctor’s note, send it to the HR and the right people, and officially get those lights turned off. And that’s one aspect of managing the environment. 

And you have to be a self-advocate because the world isn’t going to do it for you. And we know this with all sorts of situations, but especially with highly sensitive people because 80% of the population is not sensitive. So they have no idea. They don’t know. They just don’t know how hard it is for us and how that can affect our work so much or our well-being so much.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:24:28] No kidding. And how amazing that you’ve tread that path before so that you can help the people you work with, practical stuff like really nuts and bolts like, “This is how you can get this done. This is how I managed to work with that situation and help make it better for myself.” Man, I love good practical stuff. It’s survival stuff. It’s survival gear for the modern workplace. Really cool.

Rochana Felde: [00:24:58] Absolutely. And these are the kinds of tips I’m going to put in in the course that I’m working on. Things like having a good set of noise-canceling headphones are make it or break it for somebody in this situation, all the little things. What kind of light bulbs you put in your lamps. There’s so many things that over decades of being a highly sensitive person, not just at work, but at home and wherever the environment is, I’m sort of really tuned into the different ways that somebody’s environment can affect their mood and their well-being. And most people don’t even realize it. They just sort of tend to ignore these things. And the more we can manage it where we can and then, work on letting go where we can’t is the key.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:26:01] Well, I’m really looking forward to the completion of your course and the publishing of your course because it’s going to be an incredible resource for sensitive people everywhere. So let’s start talking about some essences that can be very helpful for this type of person. What are some of your top five or whatever essences that we can talk about that can help?

Rochana Felde: [00:26:27] Well, I would say my number one is Pink Yarrow, and I make my own called Island Pink Yarrow. So it’s a different species than the Pink Yarrow that FES has. Mine is Achillea Borealis, which is actually the species that Alaskan Essences has for their Lavender Yarrow. But the Island Pink is a yarrow that it comes, I believe, from the Channel Islands, if I recall correctly, of the California coast. 

It’s a bright pink, and it just feels like– what I think of it as like a warm, pink, fuzzy blanket. And it just helps give that feeling of being held and protected in your sensitivity in the world, but not shut off from it. So that’ll go into almost every blend that I have for clients that have high sensitivity, the other yarrows as well. The White Yarrow, of course, we always talk about that. And I think of it as, having like a ball of bubble wrap around you, so things just don’t penetrate your field so easily.

And the golden– 

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:27:57] I thought I’d throw this in here because the two of us are both, not only are we practitioners, but we’re also essence makers as well. And so somebody who’s working with you gets the advantage of essences with whom you have intimate friendships. 

So these are essences that you make yourself in your own garden or in other gardens. And so you’re bringing that added layer of essence magic to people that you work with, just to clarify that. And as well as you use essences that are in more of the essence books, the commercially available essences, as do I think both of us. We both use a lot of essences that are part of the canon,as it were, and then also essences that we make ourselves. 

So I just wanted to explain that if anybody was a little confused as we were going along because we do talk mostly about essences in the world that are available that you can access. But since we’re really digging into your practice and what you offer, this quality of bringing your own essences into your formulas for your clients is just so much more love. It’s great.

Rochana Felde: [00:29:11] I’m so glad that you clarified that. Yeah. Well, you and I on our podcast, we like to talk about things that people could go out and find. But in our practice and in my practice, I have a lot of essences that I’ve made, and I have made them from the Northern California coastal regions around Sonoma County. And some are from that I’ve grown myself because they’re from places I don’t travel. But a lot of them, well, I have worked with plant allies and tree allies from the forests where I live and the fields in this area. So it is really special. 

You mentioned when you introduced me about the shamanic journeying and apprenticeship work I did. And when I left the corporate world, so it’s sort of a real 180. People probably don’t wonder how I got from being a corporate to working with flower essences. But I had started studying herbalism way back when I was still doing computer programming and design and so forth. So it started a long time ago. And then by the time I was ready to leave and took a sabbatical, that’s when I started doing things like apprenticeships and learning how to journey, learning how to really attune with the plants, doing plant diets or Dietas, which is a practice of really adjusting them and journeying with them and really getting to know a plant ally. 

So that’s where I come from with having my own essences. It’s a practice that I do to develop these relationships with the plants and to really get their information and be able to translate that for the world, and I think that right there is a perfect example of using my sensitivity, using it as a gift, being able to tune in with a plant and see its signature visually using my senses of sight and smell and touch, and then using the depth of processing to kind of put all those together. And then the empathic piece and intuitive piece to really just sort of receive these downloads of information that I think the plants can give us.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:32:11] Yeah. I cut in with you with the Golden Yarrow, but I don’t want to miss the Golden Yarrow because the whole yarrow family is pretty much the poster child for sensitivity. And so we talked a little bit about the Pink Yarrow. And Pink Yarrow was, for sure, one of the essences that came to me the first when I first started using essences and working with essences because the quality of being an emotional empath is very challenging to work with at first. It’s really tough. It’s tough to feel everything that everyone else is feeling. 

And like you, it’s become an ally for me. It’s become part of who I am and part of my skills and my work. But at first, boy, it’s a nightmare. So I wouldn’t want to cut short our yarrow conversation because for anyone listening who feels highly sensitive or identifies as highly sensitive, yarrow is a really good starting place in all the different possibilities. So the Golden Yarrow was one that you mentioned a little bit briefly. Is that one you want to expound upon a little bit more?

Rochana Felde: [00:33:30] Yeah, I love that one, especially for being out in the world to just feeling more connected to your center, the third chakra, and having that sort of that yarrow protection while you’re projecting. 

And I’ll just say, when I was in the corporate world, I used to have– I used to look at color therapy and color magic and use that in the office. And I remember reading a tip about protecting your third chakra, and one of the things that you could do was make a yellow file folder and hold it in front of your stomach as you walked around. That’s it. And I did that. I did that. And it worked. And so what is funny about that to me is that when I think of Golden Yarrow, I think of that story, and it’s my yellow folder that I’m protecting my chakra with.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:34:43] That’s a great visual image because, yeah, that’s really what the Golden Yarrow is all about. It really helps. I use it so much for people who draw a lot of attention and are having some challenges navigating that. 

When you are first trying to get out in the world a little bit more like when we were first starting our podcast together, it feels really vulnerable when people can see you and people are noticing you. It’s really scary stuff. So for anyone who’s doing that sort of work or is a little bit challenged with that experience, a Golden Yarrow is a good possibility. Yeah.

Rochana Felde: [00:35:27] Giving a presentation, doing a video. There’s so many applications for it. And what you mentioned about being the empath and the emotional empath is such a big part of it. And so learning how to manage our energy is a big challenge and something that HSPs need to work on. 

What I would say too, the term HSP and empath get thrown around sort of interchangeably a lot. And there’s some different thoughts about that. Elaine Aaron has empathy as part of the HSP spectrum, but Judith Orloff, who has written books about, I think it’s the Empath’s Survival Guide – I can’t remember the name – there’s a lot of overlap, but all empaths are HSPs is what she says.

And so the way I see it is if somebody really resonates to the label empath, and that part of it is higher for them, then I see the different pieces of the spectrum, the depth of processing, the sensory sensitivity, the overstimulation, it’s like each of those is on its own spectrum. So you could be really high in one and lower than the other. So somebody who maybe calls themselves an empath is probably the highest in that empath spectrum. And there is so much overlap. 

So the things that would be helpful, the flower essences that I’ve had success with myself and with my clients in helping the piece where somebody might be overly empathic to where they just can’t discern what’s theirs and what’s other people’s, the yarrow is a big part of that.

But I also really like Black Tourmaline because Black Tourmaline lets us release what’s not ours. It helps us release toxic thoughts and feelings and especially, I think, what’s not ours. And I liken it to an energy practice that I learned where sort of if you’re understanding, talking to someone who’s just throwing off a ton of energy, whether that’s positive or negative emotionally, to people who are sensitive and empathic, it’s just like being crushed with a tidal wave. And how do you not– how do you get out of the way of that? How do you stop so it doesn’t just completely inundate you? 

And the Black Tourmaline reminds me of the energy practice where you imagine yourself as being a hole right through the middle of you and it just goes in one way and goes out the other. It doesn’t stay. It doesn’t stick. And then, there’s other practices like mirroring things back. And that’s a whole other topic, all of these exercises, these energy exercises that are helpful for people.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:39:16] Well, it’s just all part of building your toolset, isn’t it?

Rochana Felde: [00:39:21] It really is. It really is.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:39:23] Yeah. Are there any other essences, a couple other essences that are just absolutely essential for the HSP?

Rochana Felde: [00:39:32] Yeah. Staying grounded, grounding essences, there’s always going to be a stone or a tree in the formulas that I make or more. So I think the Hematite is a really good one. The tree essences, the Redwood, of course, always helpful for learning how to work with the community and have that long view.

I really like a flower that I found here in the forest just last spring, and I’m starting to use it more with my clients, and it’s called Western Heart’s Ease. And it’s just such a beautiful, sensitive flower in the Viola family that helps us both attune to our heart chakra, where we can see and empathize what other people are going through, but in a way where we don’t take it on, in a way where we can be just more observant and let it happen without it affecting us. So I’m working more with that one. And it’s just a really beautiful essence. And it’s similar in a way to the Alaskan Essence, the White Violet. That also has a similar property.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:41:05] Yeah, well, there’s violets in so many different systems. I know the White and the Yellow Violet in the Alaskan, but also just Violet is available from the Flower Essence Society. And they all fit in that family of sensitivity and how to work with your sensitivity and how to manage it. It’s who you are. It makes you unique and special. And also, it has its own little challenges. So work with those, get some tools, get some skills, and life gets so much better. And I think that’s probably something that you can shine a light for the clients and your people you work with where you know where they’re at. You know what life is like when you’re just starting on this path, and you can help them find some hope and some possibility that things can be better, things can get easier.

Rochana Felde: [00:42:07] Yeah, themes of self-acceptance and self-esteem are usually part of the picture because, like me, many people thought there was something wrong with them in their whole lives. So it’s a matter of learning to love that part of yourself that you were ashamed of for a very long time. 

And so flower essences like that, that work with those themes, flower essences that work with the theme of also the self-medication is there’s a core thing about that that’s looking outside of yourself for support. And then part of that emotional processes is learning to look within yourself and trust yourself and trust your body and trust what your body is telling you and so forth.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:43:10] I just love this topic. It’s really near and dear to me, even though I’m not coming from it from the same perspective. I love what your journey has brought you to and how you’re able to help people. Are there any areas that we haven’t yet touched on or parting thoughts that you want to share with somebody listening?

Rochana Felde: [00:43:30] Yeah, well, of course, there’s more that can be talked about, but the thing that I would say is if you have any thought that you might be highly sensitive, go to Elaine Aron, A-R-O-N’s website to take the HSP test. And you can also go to Judith Orloff’s site to take the empathy test and see how you do on both of those. 

And the main thing is to really realize that there’s nothing wrong with you and that it’s okay to be sensitive. It’s a word that gets– it’s a word that’s kind of negative in a lot of ways in the society, especially for men. I don’t work with a lot of men, but 20% of men are highly sensitive too. And it’s not just a female thing.

And again, the animal studies have proved that it’s not just a human thing. It’s an evolutionary trait. And the reason why it’s an evolutionary trait is because it helped our species survive. In ancient times, they needed somebody who was highly attuned to the environment and where’s a good place to set up camp and where are we going to be safe from all these different threats, and what plants are going to help heal our health issues and wounds and so forth? And throughout history, we think that it’s been the highly sensitive people who were maybe the herbalists and the advisers to royalty and things like that.

So when you can get to a place where say your boss at work is appreciative of the insight and knowledge you bring, or however it is that you’re in your life, then we feel validated. And so my goal is to help people understand their sensitivity and then manage their environment and then get to the place where they can be appreciated. And that might require some life changes, but feeling validated for highly sensitive people and appreciated, it’s so big. It’s a big thing. We really need that and not in an unhealthy way. But in order to deal with the way of being highly sensitive, it’s like that’s our payoff. So we do need to find that. And I like to help people on that journey in finding it.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:46:46] Ah, awesome. How do people find you? How can we get in touch with you?

Rochana Felde: [00:46:51] Yeah, my website, wiseflowerwellness.com is a great way to get in touch with me. Also, on Instagram, wiseflowerwellness, and Facebook, WiseFlower Wellness.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:47:08] Well, it has been really fun sharing your expertise. I’m really glad that we sat down to do this today and learned a lot more about this topic of being a highly sensitive person in this world. So thank you so much for sharing with me and sharing with our listeners. 

And listeners, thank you so much for spending time with us. We are really, really glad that you are along for this ride. And we’re enjoying so much hearing from you on the socials and in private messages. We really enjoy hearing from you. We really enjoy your feedback. We love to hear suggestions and ideas for topics that we can address upcoming. And we certainly have a lot in the plans for next year. And we’re really excited to bring more great topics and more people that you should get to know a little bit. And this world of flower essences is broad and diverse and beautiful, and we want to share all of that with you. So thanks for being along for the ride. And we’ll see you next time.

Rochana Felde: [00:48:14] Thanks, Kathleen. Thanks, everybody.

Rochana Felde: [00:48:24] You’ve been listening to The Flower Essence podcast with Rochana Felde and Kathleen Aspenns, and we appreciate your interest in connecting with nature on a deeper level. You can find us online at thefloweressencepodcast.com or join us on Facebook and continue the discussion.

Kathleen Aspenns: [00:48:47] This podcast is meant for educational and entertainment purposes only. We are not physicians and do not diagnose, prescribe, or treat medical conditions. Please consult with your own physician or health care practitioner regarding the suggestions and recommendations made by the hosts and guests of The Flower Essence podcast.

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