Kathleen and Rochana welcome Ruth Toledo Altschuler to talk about our current collaboration together—organizing the online Flower Essence Conference (coming up, April 29th, 2022!). We hear from Ruth about the impetus behind this project and the way that flower essence conferences of the past have brought people together in heartfelt community.
We also share an excerpt from one of our pre-recorded conference sessions, “Tending the Legacy of Flower Essence Therapy”. Join us for a fascinating discussion with Isabela Bisconcini, a flower essence educator, practitioner and psychotherapist from Brazil, on the multidimensional transmission and living legacy of flower essence information.
Welcome to this special episode of The Flower Essence podcast. I’m Kathleen Aspenns, and I’m here with Rochana Felde, and we are welcoming our dear friend, Ruth Toledo Altschuler. If you’re a regular listener, viewer of the podcast, you will know her. She has been with us a few times, sharing her insights from a decades-long practice of flower essence therapy. She shares and teaches on Essence Mentoring, and she is just such a gift to us and a mentor to us. And we were so delighted when she asked for our participation in her idea of bringing forth a virtual online flower essence conference. Ro and I were both just so excited to take part in it, and we’ve been working steadily and hard on getting this out into the world. We cannot be– we’re just so excited about the content that’s coming out, about the incredible speakers that we’re having to share with us their insights and wisdom and dedication on this field. And it’s just such an exciting opportunity. Thank you so much for joining us to talk about this conference and to talk about what we’re all doing to bring this into the world.
Ruth Toledo Altschuler: [00:02:07] Thank you. Thank you for inviting me back. And also thank you for embracing the vision and for the co-creation, the collaborative co-creation that is bringing this into manifestation that I’m really enjoying so much, the process of working alongside the two of you.
Rochana Felde: [00:02:33] We love working with you and are, as Kathleen said, just so grateful that you pulled us in to be a part of putting this conference on. As it’s part of our mission to get flower essence information out into the world. And that’s what we’re doing with the podcast and the conference being that next kind of logical step to bring– it’s such an amazing opportunity to bring forth, instead of having one guest at a time, for example, on the podcast, we’re bringing all of these experts together into one event. And so that is so exciting and so amazing. And I wanted to ask, so you did approach us initially for this. And what was sort of– what was prompting you to create a conference?
Ruth Toledo Altschuler: [00:03:33] Yeah. Well, there’s a whole history to flower essence conferences and how significant these have been for our souls, for the souls of those involved in flower essence therapy. So we can go back as far as the conference mentioned by Ian White, who is one of our speakers at the conference, he mentioned the conference in France. And I know and I always heard Steve tell us about that conference as well because he mentioned how amazing it was, and that was an experience, especially for the producers to finally get together and know other people who are doing the same thing and thinking in similar lines, etc. And so that moment in France, that was the first flower essence conference. It was really a very vibrant and special moment.
And then in 1992, Sabina, who’s also one of our speakers, organized the second flower essence conference in Victoria, Canada. And this was a moment where vibrational essences were really coming into the awareness of people, and there was so much enthusiasm. And Sabina was very generous that she invited me as the speaker for a short lecture. She said, Oh, I don’t have anyone from Brazil, so I would like to have you as a speaker. And this brought me into the field, into the circle of the flower essence work and the flower essence producers, and the experience of how they brought in the whole environment, the whole ecosystem of the plants and the beings that they worked with into their presentations.
And so that was a moment of like the family coming together. I remember in that first panel in the opening, I sat right beside Steve, I was just getting to know everyone, and he started by saying, “The family is coming together,” and everyone had tears in their eyes. So flower essence conferences have had that quality, that energy of people really feeling that they are encountering soul family in multiple ways, I would say.
And so after that, there was a third flower essence conference that Ian White and the Living Essences of Australia co-organized in Australia. And so I was there as well at that time.
And after that, there’s been a few, but we’ve gone many years without having this bigger coming together, and especially in the English-speaking world. It’s been a long time since we have not had this kind of event. And I had just been feeling that there was an emerging interest in flower essence therapy, that there was a momentum. And we know that in Brazil this momentum has happened decades ago. There was this exponential growth of interest and this spreading, like quick-fire interest in flower essences. I have a feeling that this is beginning to happen in the English-speaking world now, and this is why I kind of threw the idea. And I was just so delighted that you guys said, yes, let’s do it. And even more delighted as to how it is all coming together in our collaborative work.
Kathleen Aspenns: [00:07:58] Yeah. It’s really been a pleasure working with you to create this from just this little seed of an idea, and to be working on what we’ve created or what we’ve initiated was a conference all about recovery and resilience. And our framework of having spent the last few years in very challenging times, in times of feeling really separated and feeling really frightened, it’s been a scary and distressing time, and to be able to focus our conference on working to heal this. We’ve brought in speakers who are speaking to these issues very directly and bringing content about helping sensitives navigate this world. This is so timely. It’s not just that we can get together as a community in this virtual way, which is accessible to everyone. Going to a conference in real life is, you have to stop your real life and travel and it’s not accessible to everyone, but that we’re able to do this in a way that really anyone can take part and can be a part of the family while supporting their own families without having to leave home, to me, that’s a really valuable aspect of what we’re able to bring in this conference.
Rochana Felde: [00:09:31] What’s so amazing to me about it is that, well, Ruth, you’ve been in this world for so long, so many decades, and you know so many people. And even with all my flower essence training and what we’ve been doing here with the podcast, it’s just a very small amount of the community that I’m normally in touch with, and for you to sort of bring in, basically, you’re bringing the worldwide community together. I mean, we’re doing that with the conference, but it really is because of you having such a part, being such a part of this community for so long, that we’re able to bring so many amazing people together. And there’s so many experts and people I would maybe not have been able to learn from without this. So just being so– going through this process, I’m so grateful. We’re like at the feet of these people that have been doing it for so long. And it’s so excited to then take that and give it to others, to let other people do that as well, especially people who may not have, maybe they want to learn more and they’re not sure who they want to learn from or what essence ranges they should work with to begin with, this could kind of give them that whole sort of smorgasbord to then be able to discern maybe the path that they want to start out with in their journey on flower essences. So that’s such a beautiful thing, especially with the flower essence, the way that flower essence learning happens right now, which is usually with a producer and it’s usually only with a certain line. And then, you go down that path, maybe not knowing what else is out there and available. So, I’m really excited about that.
Ruth Toledo Altschuler: [00:11:37] Yeah. And for me, a big part of my work of serving flower essence therapy has been as within the context of being a partner distributor of flower essences in Brazil, where I used to live, when I first went to that second flower essence conference in Canada and I got to meet the producers and I became their distributor. One of the major things that happened was that I organized many seminars with producers as well as with practitioners over time, and I was kind of an editor of the content that they were going to produce for a very demanding audience, because in Brazil, people wanted more and more and more because they were going very deep into the knowledge of flower essence therapy, and the producers had to come up with courses that they had never taught before because they had never been faced with such a demanding audience that wanted even more in-depth content. They were so used to teaching the basic practitioner training, and that was it. And they had the demand of doing more. And so I had this opportunity of being this bridge between so many researchers as well as so many practitioners and watching their work grow over the years. And so this is what I have brought to this opportunity. Now here it’s this web of connections, but also this experience of being almost like an editor and a curator of content in the field.
Kathleen Aspenns: [00:13:45] And that does bring forth the topic that this conference does have something for everyone, whatever level of expertise and experience you might have with flower essences. We have talks that are really wonderful places to start. If you don’t know a lot about flower essences or you’re just really sort of dipping your toes, but then again, we also have talks from people who are going at very deep levels or very specific applications for flower essence therapy practitioners. So there’s really this broad range. We have, Rochana, how many speakers do we have at the conference?
Rochana Felde: [00:14:30] We have 33, I believe, at this count. Yeah.
Kathleen Aspenns: [00:14:34] Yeah, so it’s a lot.
Rochana Felde: [00:14:35] Yeah. And there’s 22 at least unique sessions where they are presenting or we’re interviewing them on a specific topic. And then, we also are bringing together people for the live panel. So we have six live panels. That will also be recorded. So everything is recorded, and you don’t necessarily have to attend that weekend of April 29th. So it is something that we want to curate, not just for a specific moment of time, but as something that can be accessed for at least the next year and be a body of work that people can learn from. So it was really important for us to be an educational conference that people could get a lot from on all those levels that you’re talking about, Kathleen.
Ruth Toledo Altschuler: [00:15:40] Yeah. And what I love about how it’s coming together is that it’s not like these summit-style things that people throw kind of a little bait, and then they want you to get a lot of emails so that you pay for the real thing. This is not what this conference is about. There is real substance and richness in each lecture.
Kathleen Aspenns: [00:16:12] And has a gift for the listeners of the podcast. We’re going to be offering some excerpts from one of the discussions on the legacy of flower essences and flower essence therapy. And Ruth, would you be so kind as to introduce Isabella for our audience, and you’ll be hearing her voice in these little segments, or you might be hearing a few voices in this segment of excerpts from this upcoming talk.
Ruth Toledo Altschuler: [00:16:47] Yeah. One of the conversations that we’ve had has been with Isabela Bisconcini, who is someone who has been on a spiritual path for a very long time. She is trained in language, she has two majors in Portuguese and in Italian. She’s also trained as a psychoanalyst. She’s a Jungian psychoanalyst and a psychotherapist, and she’s also a systemic constellation practitioner. And one of the things that is quite exemplary in terms of her contributions to flower essence therapy has been the amazing work of compilation that she has done of several workshops that have been demanded from Steve Johnson of the Alaskan Essences over the decades, in which he went very much in-depth into knowledge. And so she has been someone who has tended to that legacy in a very unique way and brought forth some contributions to our discussion that are quite meaningful for me.
Isabela Bisconcini: [00:18:10] Thank you so much, Ruth, for the opportunity to be here with you and to have this possibility for us to think about and to discuss and to reflect and contemplate about the legacy of flower essences that we all love. And it’s good for us because we share the same passion. We share the same love for the flower essences. So I’m very honored to be here with you and thank you so much for the opportunity.
Ruth Toledo Altschuler: [00:18:45] So, one of the things we would like to do in establishing context for this conversation that is the first probably of many, is to talk about what is the body of knowledge of flower essence therapy and what is the unique nature of this body of knowledge? And so what we know is that we’ve had the work of Dr. Edward Bach, and we know that Dr. Bach had burnt most of his papers. We know that he did a big bonfire and burnt mostly everything. And so we were left only with the few pieces of his body of work that he thought were the ones that should be preserved, as well as with the living transmission of the people who worked alongside Dr. Bach. And so we were left with his biography, as it was told by Nora Weeks, with those few writings that were preserved, of course, with the essences, but also with that direct transmission, of which Julian Barnard is one of the ones who received that in a more direct way. So we’ve had his contact with some of the people who learnt with Dr. Bach– with the ones who learnt with Dr. Bach, and he had this direct contact.
Rochana Felde: [00:42:46] Check out thefloweressenceconference.com for more information and to see all of these amazing people that are participating in this conference.
Kathleen Aspenns: [00:43:05] This podcast is meant for educational and entertainment purposes only. We are not physicians and do not diagnose, prescribe, or treat medical conditions. Please consult with your own physician or healthcare practitioner regarding the suggestions and recommendations made by the hosts and guests of The Flower Essence podcast.