FEP06 Grounding

Show Notes:

In this episode, we discuss Flower Essences to help you become more grounded and to clear yourself of energetic debris. Once you are grounded and clear, you can reweave your etheric field with essences, and develop healthy boundaries.

Flower Essences discussed during the show:


Anytime you can, try stepping outside and connecting to the earth. Putting the soles of your feet on the ground is great, but connect any way that works for you and where you are. Simply bringing attention to the Bubbling Spring point behind the ball of your foot can help you connect down into the earth.

Slowing down and taking some time to rest under the canopy of a tree can be a grounding experience. If you can’t be with a tree in person, find an image of a tree and imagine yourself in its presence.

Show Transcript

Rochana Felde [00:00:44] Hey everyone, welcome to the Flower Essence Podcast. This is Rochana Felde, and I’m here with Kathleen Aspenns. And today we want to talk about grounding and boundaries. These two subjects go well together. Some people may not know what grounding and boundaries mean the way we describe it from an energetic perspective. Kathleen, what can you say about the definition of grounding? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:01:11] Yeah I think that it’ll be a fun conversation for us both to have. Because I certainly have my opinions and and the way that I perceive it. And I’m really interested to hear yours as well, because I think that there’s probably a lot of overlap, but there might also be some different perspectives on it. I think grounding is something that is really crucial and also something that is really lacking in modern life. We tend to live artificial sorts of lives and not be in touch with the literal ground. You know, we don’t actually touch the ground much, but we also tend not to be connected to seasons and the different shifts that go on. We tend to be of the opinion that we’ve separated ourselves from natural cycles. You know, whether it’s cycles of planets and of the moon, to cycles of the seasons, to just literally what the temperatures are outside because we’re in insulated and temperature controlled environments most of the time. So I think there are some literal elements of grounding that contribute to our lack of grounding. And then I think boundaries are a whole additional piece that I think will be fun to talk with you. So shall we stick with the grounding topic first? 

Rochana Felde [00:02:36] Yeah. I think that’s a good place to start. I like what you say about it. It is a word that’s thrown around a lot especially in the New Age community so I like to just get grounded in what grounding means, to get everybody on the same page. You know from an energetic perspective, I think it’s what we do to bring erratic and errant energy that’s in and around our body. Bringing it down and connecting it with the earth so that we’re we’re once again connected. There are lots of ways of doing this, not just with flower essences. Flower essences are part of the tool box, but there’s also an intentional aspect that I think is critical. And like you said, when we’re in offices and not in nature, we’re losing the natural ability to ground. Where maybe we didn’t have to think about it when we were outside all the time or walking around in bare feet with our feet on the earth. And now that we don’t do that, we may not realize that we’re getting more and more disconnected, and what earth energy does is bring it in so we’re not as scattered. Our energy is more focused so that we’re coming into our body more, and and being in our body more, rather than just in our heads. And it’s an important first step in doing any kind of energetic work. Let’s say you want to work on chakras, or another energy practice, or work with the boundaries which we’ll talk about. But the grounding is is the key part so that we can rein in all the energy that might be swirling around us in chaos. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:04:39] I agree. There’s that piece of not being in the body, focusing in your consciousness and becoming oriented upward. You know I think that’s part of the education process where little kids are popped into little desks and chairs, and don’t get a lot of physical activity and are encouraged to be in a mental state, into a thinking state, very early on. And so they tend to start resonating with the brain more than with the rest of themselves and things don’t get very integrated. I think that’s probably one of the first places where this lack of grounding starts to happen, because we’re we rewarded for spending all the time up in the head and not really in the body. And I think there’s a piece of disconnect that begins right  there. And I think that’s a worthwhile thing to start bringing back. Awareness and a consciousness that’s connected to the body. I think that there’s a real strong piece here when you’re so upwardly focused, you don’t tend to feel very secure. And I think that an awful lot of people feel anxious all the time and a lot of that’s just because they’re not very grounded and by working with grounding processes you can help to relieve a lot of that anxiety and you start to feel a little more aware of your environment and of where your body is in space and your connection to the ground. And it feels a lot more secure. 

Rochana Felde [00:06:18] That’s something that I have to work on a lot all the time personally because I am one that tends to go out of my body, or not be connected in my body, or be a lot in my head. And so that’s just the way that I am, I know that I need to always make extra effort to remember to ground myself. And there’s all sorts of techniques for doing that that go along with the flower essence use. You know some of it is just as simple as feeling your feet on the ground, like wow I’m just rubbing my feet into the ground as we’re talking. So I stay grounded, and there’s lots of guided meditations for imagining grounding cords that come from your first chakra, and go into the center of the earth, and breathing in that energy of the earth. There’s just being in nature, there’s things like eating root vegetables, and adding more minerals to your diet, working with stones and crystals. So there’s a whole array of tools for all of us, but particularly those of us that need extra help in the grounding department. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:07:39] So many of us do. It’s extremely common and one of the recommendations I’ll offer with clients is to work with… as you said, paying attention to the soles of your feet. From the Chinese Medicine perspective we look at Kidney 1. So the name of it is Bubbling Spring and it’s the first point on the Kidney channel. It is on the base of the foot, right behind the ball of the foot. And so one of the things that you’re doing when you’re doing Chi Gong, or Tai Chi is you’re paying attention to that point and you’re making that contact with the ground as you’re working and it starts to help connect you to that source point of that grounded energy. So you’re using Kidney 1 as self acupressure, or just paying attention to it as you’re moving or standing or meditating or breathing – whatever you try, all of those possibilities will help to accentuate that point. I also love to do a tree meditation – whether it’s physically in the presence of a tree, or whether I’m meditating and sort of becoming a tree, and I’ll feel my roots growing down to the ground. And I find that to be a really wonderful grounding meditation. And then I envision my arms being branches and then my leaves can suck up moisture and sunlight, and it’s a really lovely meditation to ponder that tree energy and bring it into your life. 

Rochana Felde [00:09:22] I love just walking outside for a few minutes whenever I can, and slipping off my shoes, and putting my feet on grass or dirt or whatever and I’ll do that coming out of a store or a doctor’s office – even on those little islands where you park in the parking lots if I need to reset before I get on the road again and I want to be in my body and grounded before I get in the car. And people may have heard that “earthing” is a thing now. And so not just putting your feet on the earth, but there’s devices like earthing blankets or sheets that you plug into a wall outlet. Now I haven’t tried this. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:10:13] I’ve certainly heard of it but I don’t tend to be technologically oriented for those sorts of things. But if that’s appealing to you, then you go for it. 

Rochana Felde [00:10:24] But just maybe you step out the door and put my feet on the ground – I never regret it when I do. So what are some flower essences that you like to help people get grounded in their bodies?

Kathleen Aspenns [00:10:41] Well my first thoughts are always towards trees because they are kind of the ultimate in grounding energies. So thinking about working with tree energy.. you know Redwood of course has such a wonderful earth connection and I know that’s one that you’re connected to as well, and use in your practice. But Redwood just has that ability to ground and to spread that energetic out. It really connects you to your backbone, to your spine. And you know part of being grounded is not just that you’ve become this sort of heavy lump but it’s that you’ve got that that elevation, that polarity, where you have the strength to rise up, and you can bring your energies all the way in integrity with the whole part of you. Is that how you see it? 

Rochana Felde [00:11:36] I see Redwood as such a grounding tree essence. And it’s interesting because you know, I’ve had people ask me.. I’ve talked about how the roots are shallow, but they spread out for hundreds of feet, if not more, and connect with other redwoods. But I’ve had people ask me why is that a good grounding tree if the roots don’t go deep. And the thing is it’s actually more stable with the way that it spreads its roots out. And I think that the energy of it connects to the tether, to Earth, Gaia, the energetics of the earth almost more than any other tree I’ve worked with. So it doesn’t have to have that deep root system to be a good grounding tree. And I feel like it somehow channels the earth energy up from the core of the earth to bring it to us. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:12:38] It’s so funny – it’s such a human thing to think that the more grounding tree would be the one with the deeper roots. And you know if you were to go outside and actually see a redwood, and see a whole grove of these wonderful old growth redwoods you would recognize that it does just fine. The strategy for rooting and grounding is pretty successful. It can support an awful lot of growth and height and breadth. So I’m going to trust the Redwood has a really good strategy on this rather than that it needs to drill down X number of thousand feet into the ground. But I think also there’s that piece of connectedness too that is essential to grounding. It’s not that you’re grounding, and you’re alone, you’re grounded in connection with your community. Redwoods are always in community. So I think that there’s a piece there, that grounding piece, that it’s not about you. As if you could become this pillar, this unmovable pillar. No, you’re connecting to the root of your being, which is being here on Gaia and connected to your community around you. 

Rochana Felde [00:14:00] The root system doesn’t just connect with the other other root systems in their community. It it funnels food to them, it feeds them, and it feeds the weak link in the group. It’s a huge support for community and being connected and grounded in community level. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:14:21] And there’s a whole other topic. You know, for another conversation. Because I’m really interested in the studies that are being done now on trees and ecosystems and how they take care of each other. And that whole notion of the weak link it’s like well, what if we don’t know everything that there is to know? And maybe that plant that we see as a weak link, maybe there is something there about the fostering of relationships within community. And so sometimes we are the weak link in our community and we need more support than others. And maybe that’s a really good bonding element within our community. So what are some trees that you think of for grounding? Or other plants. 

Rochana Felde [00:15:09] Well there’s a lot of trees… you know, any tree is helpful for grounding in my opinion. And then there’s trees that also have a nice protective element. And I think we’ll get into more of this around boundaries. Some of the trees like the western red cedar, and the sweet gum tree, even the giant sequoia. But let’s hold off on those for the boundary discussion. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:15:40] Yeah I’m almost feeling like this should be Part 1 and Part 2 because there’s an awful lot of a lot of ground here to talk about.I like the concept of bringing in maybe some of the gems right now, because I think the grounding piece you know… I think gems are naturally grounding. And working with the mineral kingdom has a lot of really wonderful aspects to add to that whole notion of grounding. So perhaps maybe you throw out a suggestion of something that you think of for a gem that helps ground. 

Rochana Felde [00:16:17] Green Jasper was a good one for any blocked energy in the lower chakras that are keeping you from grounding, or inconsistent energy flow. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:16:31] And you use the Alaskan essences. That was my favorite one for the grounding topic too, so good. . 

Rochana Felde [00:16:40] As far as gem essences go, I love the Alaskan. I’ve made a few myself but otherwise I turn to Alaskan essences. The jaspers in general are all grounding the Green Jasper really helps with that Earth connection, don’t you think? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:16:59] Oh absolutely I agree. Because I think that it’s helping you to connect to your own earthy qualities. You know, your body is of the earth. You know if you look at chemical components, we’re earth you know, we are nothing else but earth components. And so using the Jasper, the Green Jasper, really helps you to reconnect to your body’s self, to your being, to your physical form. And I think that’s a really useful thing to reconnect with, and think about, with the Green Jasper. But any of the stones, even if you’re just kind of looking at crystals and stones, any of them that are sort of darker colored or sort of earthy colors. I think that those are generally good grounding stones. 

Rochana Felde [00:17:48] Yeah I like bloodstone, black tourmaline, malachite, hematite. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:17:56] Yeah those are my “go-to”‘s right there. I think that another piece that I like to look at for grounding is environmental essences or nature essences. And I think that Stone Circle is one of my favorite grounding environmental essences. It’s from the Alaskan essences, and Stone Circle helps you feel so safe, and in that field of connection like we were talking about before, where you can get into your body and feel really grounded and protected. Is that one that you use? 

Rochana Felde [00:18:35] I haven’t used that one very much. I haven’t used a lot of environmental essences. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:18:45] I really like the framing that Steve Johnson used in his concept of the Alaskan essence system.  He would use the concept of a picture. So, the flower was the topic of the picture right in the center, the image in the picture. And then there was the frame, the gem that helps to stabilize that picture and hold it together. And then the background was the environmental essence. I think I got that right. But basically if you think about this as being a three part system where that environmental essence is creating this field within which the other essences will flow. And so by using an environmental essence that gives you the qualities that you’re looking for in the whole formula together, it helps to hold it all in a healing framework. So that the essences..when you’re asking for them to do that work, they are more stabilized and able to perform. 

Rochana Felde [00:19:55] Where did they make that one? Out of curiosity, do you know? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:19:58] Stone Circle? I don’t know the location precisely but I know that it was in Alaska. You know I’ve seen pictures of the circle and it’s really amazing. It’s a natural circle of stones. It’s not like Stonehenge of course, but it’s “natural Stonehenge”. There’s a whole setting of a very large stones and within that circle there’s this little altar stone. And apparently you can’t see this arrangement of stones until you’re almost right in it. And I think I remember Steve saying that he was following a badger. He was following some wild animal with his camera getting pictures. I think it was a badger. I’m not sure. (Correction: it was a marmot) And he was following along, and all of a sudden he looked up and he found himself within this stone circle. And so it was the animal kingdom that showed to him this thing. Ordinarily this place which would nearly invisible otherwise. 

Rochana Felde [00:21:07] That’s amazing. So it’s a completely natural phenomena, one that had just been there.  

Kathleen Aspenns [00:21:18] And I think another one of the essences that I use a lot for grounding is Banyan Tree from Jane Bell’s Hawaiian series. And if you think about that image of the banyan tree (and we’re completely shifting ecosystems here from Alaska to Hawaii), but if you think about that image of a banyan tree, where it forms these buttressing roots, these very strong and twisting roots. And then on each branch it sends out aerial rootlets and they’ll drip down out of the branches and when they hit the ground they’ll form more pillars. And so this tree becomes a sort of architectural growth over time as it supports itself as it grows. So it’s got this signature of being incredibly grounded but also having that quality of expansion. It’s so stable and the essence really helps you to get grounded when you’re reaching out and stretching yourself. And then you can drop that little rootlet and feel stabilized as you grow and expand. 

Rochana Felde [00:22:31] I really like the Yarrow Environmental Solution from FES. And what’s neat about that, aside from all the yarrow essences, is they put salt in it. And salt is so grounding and an earth mineral, and so it makes a unique formula that I feel is pretty effective. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:22:54] Yeah I completely agree. That’s one that’s underused, I don’t think it’s quite gets enough attention. But I think that you’re right, that that’s a wonderful grounding essence. But it also helps with that second piece of grounding, which is – what’s keeping you from being grounded? So it helps you throw off stuff. It was created in response to.. I was about to say Fukushima, but it’s Chernobyl. It helps with environmental toxins, environmental radiation, to keep that out of your field. So I think that’s a really useful essence to be thinking about as well. I love that one. 

Rochana Felde [00:23:36] So speaking of yarrows, let’s talk about the yarrow. Although that gets more into the boundaries and protection. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:23:46] Now I have strong opinions about boundaries, and I think for me.. I’m segueing a little bit from the whole concept of groundedness… into why you’re not grounded in the first place. I think that one of the reasons why people aren’t grounded is because there has been some sort of trauma, and or a boundary violation that that your only possible response was to leave your body. Whatever degree it was, whether it was extreme or whether it was a “micro” trauma, you needed to leave in order to be safe. And so I think a lot of times people grew up constantly partially leaving their body, and never quite got in again. And you will end up with a situation where you’re not very grounded and you also can’t create healthy and good boundaries. So I think that the boundary issue can be a piece of this grounding issue and that it can also be a piece of itself if you never learned how to set a boundary. 

Rochana Felde [00:24:52] Yeah there’s absolutely a lot of challenges with setting and maintaining boundaries in our society. I think maybe more so today partly due to what we talked about, with the nervous system overstimulation and the 24/7 lifestyles we lead. We don’t really have the privacy or the alone time that maybe we used to have generations ago. We’re always on, we’re always connected, and you know part of that is learning to create boundaries around that. If we’re laying in bed ready to go to sleep and we’re checking our e-mail, and our boss e-mailed us, or  somebody needs something, all of a sudden we’re responding to that. Even if we don’t respond to the email, our bodies and our emotions and our system is responding to that. And we just basically didn’t have a boundary there in place to protect us from that. So that’s just one aspect, then there’s the psychic boundaries, emotional boundaries, physical boundaries, all these layers of our etheric body that have may have holes. Or maybe we’re sensitive people, and we want to help people all the time, and we’re letting people drain our energy without realizing it. There’s so many ways that issue can go, and so boundary work is another one that I have to work a lot on, as a sensitive empathic type of person. How about you? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:26:38] Oh yeah. You know, I was raised in a fundamentalist cult and children were not allowed to say no, and obedience was enforced with physical punishment. So from the time I was an infant I was never allowed to set a boundary and that was enforced with fear and violence. Learning how to set a boundary is something children naturally start to do with the “terrible twos”, right? The little kid does nothing but say no all the time, and that’s totally healthy and normal. And that child is starting to learn to negotiate their world and to be able to start setting boundaries. Obviously they need parental guidance to develop that appropriately. But in my experience that was shut down really hard and never allowed to develop. So as you might imagine, as I grow up I’m all about making everybody else fine, and it all comes out of out of my expense, you know? And learning to set a boundary has been a real practice for me of developing the ability to recognize when somebody has crossed a boundary. My ability to express a preference even has been something I’ve rebuilt over time. So that’s been a big process for me personally, and I can see it in a lot of the culture as well, especially in women. Women are really expected to be nice all the time, to be accommodating, and to please. And we want to be liked. And a lot of times when women start to stand up for themselves the culture as a whole (and even other women) will stomp down on them and shame them by saying she’s being bitchy. You know that if a man were saying that, you know saying the exact same thing, it would be fine. So there’s a cultural piece to being a woman, of how to set a boundary in a way that you’re taking care of yourself and you’re really looking out for your own needs. And that’s not selfish. That’s actually really healthy. 

Rochana Felde [00:29:13] Absolutely and thank you for sharing your story about your childhood. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:29:18] You know it’s a more extreme example, but it highlights how that can happen in so many childhoods. You know, even one or two instances of being shut down when asking for something or standing up for yourself can have such a profound effect on a little psyche. 

Rochana Felde [00:29:45] Yeah. Yeah. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:29:47] It’s something that that is writ large in the culture. And so, I did have an extreme version of it, but I can see its impact everywhere. And I can see it in my clients as well. I mean it’s so sad when you hear stories about a woman who was afraid to leave an elevator, or get out of a situation that felt wrong or where she felt threatened, because she was concerned what somebody else would think. And then something bad happens to her, and she says, I knew I shouldn’t have been there, but I didn’t want to upset someone. This is really basic stuff. When we take care of ourselves, and really listen to our our instincts of when to say no, and when to to step up and set a boundary. You know there are so many good boundary essences and I think that ability to say no, and to look out for your own needs is an essential part of development, and being a healthy person. And I think that Centaury is one that I think of a lot for that topic. Dr. Bach’s essence has a really strong correlation to the cultural constraint on women not being able to say no. Because our model of “good womanhood” is that she was selfless, that she never said no to anybody or anything. And you end up being a doormat, and you end up being sick, because you haven’t listened to what your own needs were and you’re spending energy that you don’t have. 

Rochana Felde [00:31:37] Yeah. I like Walnut a lot as well. As far as the Bach essences go, the walnut tree creates that boundary as it grows, with the juglone. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:31:52] Right, juglone, the chemical component. I think it comes out of the roots but I think it also comes out of the foliage that drops. 

Rochana Felde [00:32:00] And what that does is keep, not all of the plants, but some of the other plants, from growing in its perimeter. And so when you’re under a walnut tree this feeling of a created boundary. And you’re in that perimeter, and I like that aspect of walnut from a protection standpoint. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:32:25] Yeah I think that’s interesting, and I think it also has that component of “link breaking”, of karmic or ancestral links. So there’s that piece where, if your family  or how you were raised, says “no”, women can’t do that, or, nobody can do that. You know, if nobody is allowed to say “no”, nobody is allowed to set a boundary. You can help to shift that in your own.. It’s not even your wiring, it’s like in every cell that you just know this to be true because that’s how you were raised. That’s it’s in your DNA. 

Rochana Felde [00:32:58] Yeah it’s great for reprogramming and that walnut nut inside the shell is like a little brain and I’d like to think of it as you know that’s helping me reprogram my brain to establish a new pattern. Perfect. Yeah. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:33:16] And I think that we could start talking about Yarrow now, because I think that we’re in that place where we can rebuild that field. Once we learn how to push things out of the field, then we can re-weave the field. Is that the way you see the etheric field? 

Rochana Felde [00:33:34] Yeah. You definitely don’t want to repair it, or seal it until you’ve kind of gotten out of it what should not be there. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:33:46] Right, Tourmaline the heck out of it. Black Tourmaline is great for getting this stuff out of your field. Getting rid of toxins, or whatever is not good for you, to help move it out of your field, and then start to rebuild it with the Yarrow. Now which one – there’s so many different yarrows available, different colors and different species. How do you like to differentiate? 

Rochana Felde [00:34:10] Well I know the white Yarrow.  It’s started blooming in my yard this week. I have a few different colors – I have island pink yarrow which is a California native, and I have a red yarrow hasn’t bloomed yet and the traditional white yarrow which is also used in herbalism. The white yarrow, I have this image of it… it’s like being protected by bubble wrap. When I attune with that plant, that is sort of the imagery that I get, or like the boy in the bubble. You know, if you’ve seen those environmental bubbles for people who are highly sensitive to the environment. And that bubble is like the physical representation of what I see yarrow doing as far as surrounding us with this sort of intelligent barrier. It helps with psychic attack type of energies. I feel if unwanted energy tries to come in, it just bounces back off that barrier. And then the pink yarrow is for psychic, empathic protection for the more sensitive types, such as myself, really benefit from pink yarrow. And then the yellow yarrow I use when there’s energy related to the will that needs some buffering. How about you, how do you differentiate? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:35:58] I often kind of start with the basic, some form of the white yarrow. Whenever there’s been an assault to the field, or if there is a weak or porous boundary. And  don’t forget to use yarrow after surgeries or loss of consciousness of any kind. It’s really useful to start rebuilding that field. So I’d throw that in there. So I use the white yarrow, and it depends on the circumstance and the client situation whether I’d be using the FES version of white yarrow or whether I’d be using perhaps the Alaskan version of the white yarrow. You know, yarrow grows everywhere. There are yarrows all over the planet. I think, at least, in the northern hemisphere. And so I might be thinking of the Alaskan yarrow if I’m looking for the more extreme version, because anything growing in Alaska has that intensity of energy, because the environment there is so intense. And the FES, the Californian version of yarrow, I think it’s a little more universal. It’s a little better fit when a situation has been going on for a little longer, or it’s not quite as extreme of a situation. And then there are different colorations of yarrow. Pink Yarrow has been a godsend. Anyone who is sensitive, like you’re saying, especially with my circumstances. I’m very empathic because I always had my sensors out growing up, needing to know what is really going on. Not what people are saying is going on, but what is what is really going on. This is what we learn when we grow up in these kind of weird environments. Children learn to have their sensors out, their feelers out at all times. And so I learned to internalize those feelings that other people were feeling and taking it all in as an empath. And in the process of starting to kind of unwind that, Pink Yarrow has been extraordinarily helpful. Now I can see my ability to be an empath as being an asset. I use it absolutely every day in my work, and in my life, because now I know there’s something going on, I can feel it going on. But now I know that it’s not mine and I’m able to separate from it. I can feel it. I can appreciate it. It gives me information, but I don’t have to absorb it. And so there’s that piece for me, that yarrow piece of: this is yours, this is mine. You know, I don’t have to take on the energies of the universe. I can actually use them, notice them, and then let them move on. And the Golden Yarrow is a really interesting essence for helping whenever you’re in the public eye. I think of this one as being the public speaking role, or just being out and being visible. And so whenever you’re needing to express yourself, bringing those third chakra issues forward. You know, ego is such a “bad word” I’m putting air quotes around it. I don’t think the ego is a bad thing because it’s really essential to being and doing on this plane. A healthy ego will allow you to be expressive, and share and connect without being out of control. And I think that the Golden Yarrow (corrected – misspoke and said Pink Yarrow) helps to mediate that. And it’s also really helpful for whenever someone might be projecting onto you. So you can be out in the public view, but not feel vulnerable to having somebody else throwing something on top of you that’s not yours, or have someone projecting weird things on you. These sorts of things that can happen when you’re in the public view. 

Rochana Felde [00:40:06] Yeah I definitely agree. And I would use the Golden Yarrow with anyone trying to be in a management or leadership position especially, and certainly for women. What I’ve seen, so many times in office workplaces is, women who’ve never  been in a leadership position before and then really go over the top when they don’t need to. Because they don’t know that they really do have personal power and so they’re overcompensating for it. I think Golden Yarrow is a good one when it comes to that sort of energetic ego boundary that you’re talking about. It’s really interesting. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:41:00] And it’s such a different plant. I saw it growing at Terra Flora at FES’s gardens. It’s vastly different than the Achillea millefolium that the regular and pink yarrows are made with. And I forget what species Achillea is the yellow one, the golden one, is but it has deep green foliage and is strong and upright growing. It’s really quite different as a signature of the plant itself. 

Rochana Felde [00:41:31] Well the one I have is a moonshine yarrow. I believe it’s the California native alternative and it’s more of a rosette, the way it grows.You know, the white yarrow  comes out of the ground in clumps, the stalks just come right out of the ground. Whereas the golden yarrow is mounding and the flowers are more centered. So it’s really interesting. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:42:06] Well that is interesting because that sounds very different. It must be a very different species than the one that the FES has created and developed under the name Golden Yarrow. So it would be a different essence, a different quality of essence as well. That’s really fun part about learning about essences, and creating essences, learning all the little differences and then also the similarities as well. Because the families have a lot of similarities but each essence has different qualities. 

Rochana Felde [00:42:41] Have you used Lavender Yarrow at all? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:42:44] Oh sure, yes. Thank you for bringing that up. I’d forgotten about that until just now. Thank you. Lavender Yarrow is a wonderful essence and I think about this one for the top of the field. So for somebody who is really psychically sensitive, or who has had a lot of out of body experiences – whether literal out of body experiences, or if they just tend to be ungrounded and more airy oriented, a little bit less in their body, they’ll tend to have a weaker field at the top. And I think that Lavender Yarrow is extremely helpful for that. Is that how you use it? 

Rochana Felde [00:43:21] I actually haven’t used the Lavender Yarrow. I just found out about it and I’m super excited. I want to, I need to get it. Yeah. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:43:31] I’d have to look through the research to see what Alaskan essences say as far as which species they used to create the Lavender Yarrow flower essence. But it’s really useful for someone who has disturbing dreams because there’s a piece there about when your spirit is detaching from your body in sleep and you don’t have that protected connection. And I think that the Lavender Yarrow is helpful in that particular aspect. 

Rochana Felde [00:44:04] That’s great. I’m taking notes on this one. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:44:07] It’s a good one. It’s a good one. So we’re probably we should start thinking about the last couple ones. There’s so many, I know we could go on for hours. So I think this is going to have to be part one of many because this topic is so deep, there’s so much possibility, but we’ve we’ve covered a lot. 

Rochana Felde [00:44:29] I think definitely the basics. There’s one more I just wanted to add it for grounding that I didn’t mention and that’s the Gum Weed plant. Have you ever worked with that? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:44:39] I have not. 

Rochana Felde [00:44:41] The native Grindelia, I forget the common one, but Grindelia camporum is the native California species. Great Valley gum plant and it is in the Asteraceae, the sunflower family, and has a yellow ray-like flower, and it produces a really gummy sap in the center of the flower that’s used in herbalism, it’s used as a tincture and it’s used for bronchial infections, and it’s used topically for rashes and skin issues. That plant is one of the most grounding experiences I’ve had. Doing a plant attunement with it, of all of the plants, it’s got that feeling, that stickiness that brings you right down into connecting with the earth, and merging with the earth. And it’s a really lovely one to get back into the body. And also, loving the skin you’re in. So, if there are skin components that are indicative of something that might be something to look at. You know, slowing down, and listening to your feelings and not just words, and accessing the wisdom that stored in the earth are ways that I use for grounding. Which also makes me want to say about the trees, and grounding, bringing up the concept of slowing down. And I think that’s one of the reasons why all trees are are helpful in grounding, but especially the long lived trees. So again with the Sequoias and the Redwoods, these trees that live thousands of years. You just stop to imagine how much these trees have seen, to have lived that long on the planet, and how much they’ve seen. Like the little humans running around, and then they get cars… 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:47:00] And they’re so impressed with themselves how fast they can move. 

Rochana Felde [00:47:05] And it’s funny because when I’m driving, and I’m on the highway, wherever it is, and I see all of the trees planted along the sides of the roads, and I just think about how many people they’ve seen flying by. But when you stop driving, and you take a walk, and you slow down and you actually can communicate with that tree or just sit under it or get a sense of it – I think that energy of the tree helps to do that. I mean it really literally helps to slow down and then do the things to get back in our body, to connect with the earth. The concept of forest bathing and letting the trees help us to change our energy to where we are. Going at a bit of a different pace is just so overlooked. It’s so important and so overlooked and the trees are everywhere and they’re doing it and they’re helping us all the time without us even realizing it. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:48:17] I think that’s a really good launching point for anyone listening to be able to connect to your grounding by connecting to a tree. So there must be a tree somewhere near you that you can take a few moments and go out and connect to. And if you really can’t do that, then go ahead and pull up a picture of a giant Sequoia on your computer and connect to it. Theoretically. I think that’s a really good practice. And then as much as you can, to the degree you can… If you can get your feet in the soil, beautiful. If not, just really paying attention to your feet on the ground, and to connecting in, and really connecting into your body. These would all be good starting points for people to remember and start practicing this grounding and then you’ll start to get help developing really healthy boundaries. 

Rochana Felde [00:49:13] This has been another great episode, it’s so wonderful to talk to you every time. Kathleen. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:49:18] I really enjoy it very much. Until next time. Bye everybody. 

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