FEP18 The Spring Season

Most of us enjoy the energy and enthusiasm of spring, but there are challenges as well. In this episode, we discuss the season from the perspectives of various world traditions, how to support detoxification of your liver in spring, what to do about grouchiness and irritability, and how to maintain focus and momentum to accomplish your goals.

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Show Transcript

Kathleen Aspenns [00:00:41] Welcome, everyone. This week we’re going to be talking about spring. Spring is for a lot of people a favorite season, but it’s also very challenging. There’s a lot of elements to spring that push a lot of energy through. There’s all this growth energy, and this energy combines into these forces within us that if we have any blocks or any stuck places, that spring energy can really push up against it. So there’s so many pieces about spring that I’m looking forward to talking about. And Ro, I know you have some elements that you want to share about your understanding of spring. So between the two of us, it’s going to be a conversation all about spring and flower essences. 

Rochana Felde [00:01:25] Yes, sounds great. And it’s a pretty dry spring here in northern California in the northern hemisphere. So we don’t have the rains and yet hopefully we’ll get them. But the sun is out and the birds are singing. And there’s a lot of signs of growth happening, which is always exciting after the long winter. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:01:46] Yeah, maybe not so long here in California as it is in other places. 

Rochana Felde [00:01:52] It’s really true. We had a really early, very heavy, wet winter and then it just stopped all of a sudden. I know to the north they’re having a lot more rain and even to the south are having more rain. But somehow we in northern California right now are getting a block of sunlight. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:02:08] And one of the plants that I’m watching blooming right now is the Cherry Plum, the wild growing Prunus cerasifera, which, as far as I know, was essentially brought here by Luther Burbank, as one of the plants that he used as a rootstock for growing plums. So a lot of our old plum orchards that used to be in Sonoma County, the birds took seeds and there’s little seedlings of these cherry plums all over the place on hedgerows and by the side of the road. And so I get to look at the cherry plum, which reminds me of Dr. Bach’s work. And I kind of say hi to it every springtime. 

Rochana Felde [00:02:46] Yeah, that’s right. I’ve got a few flowering around me as well, and I didn’t know that. Luther Burbank, who’s big here in Sonoma County for those who don’t know you. You know, with the celebrity horticulturist long past, but still a celebrity. I didn’t know he was responsible for that. I’ve actually just cut down some extra cherry plum trees. They can get a little out of hand. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:03:12] Yeah, they’re very comfortable in this area. I believe they’re native to China, as far as I recall. And they were really efficient and effective rootstock for a lot of the commercial plums. As you might know, orchards are asexually propagated and grown on rootstock so that they have reliable disease resistance, or just that it’s a known quantity as far as the rootstock goes. And the cherry plum was used as rootstock. 

Rochana Felde [00:03:44] Well, we’re already getting started on the nerdy stuff. Yeah, we’re just going so nerdy these days. I love it. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:03:52] Let’s talk about spring since we’re here to talk about spring. 

Rochana Felde [00:03:55] We’re here to talk about spring. So in the wheel of the year, neo pagan wheel of the year based on pre-Christian traditions, we start the year, the springtime with February 2nd, which is Imbolc or Brigids Day. That really is about a festival celebrating the passing of the winter and the first signs of spring. It symbolizes a time for purification and spring cleaning in anticipation of the new life for the new year and towards the middle of the spring. We have the vernal equinox, also known as Astara, and that will be when light and darkness balance once again, and then light will start to rise in the year. And that typically aligns in symbolism and timing around Easter. And then a May Day is basically the end of that season and the beginning of when summer will start, that’s Beltane, which is all about fertility and the power of life and fullness. So it’s interesting to compare some of these different indicators of spring and different philosophies. And Western herbalism is one, you know, that looks at springtime as a time to detox, and to help support the body’s detox processes, through the liver, the lymph and the skin. And there’s a lot of excellent spring herbs that are growing right now and that are used for bitters and digestive formulas. And in ayurveda, it’s a similar concept. It’s time to lighten up the diet from heavy fats and oils and start having foods that are more clearing and cleansing and detoxifying. Just simple, though, not anything too much for the body. It’s all about balance and just eating for the seasons. What is the general thought in Chinese medicine, Kathleen? That is about the spring season. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:06:15] Well, yeah, I don’t think I can pull up any dietary recommendations like you’re talking about, because I was just thinking about that element of Chinese New Year celebrations. That is considered the beginning of spring instead of how Western culture celebrates New Year’s on December thirty first or January first, Chinese New Year is all about that starting with that rising springtime energy. So you can look at that New Year’s celebration as being essentially the beginning of the new growing season, the beginning of the new year. And then the spring equinox becomes mid-spring, really. And so the systems are very aligned because they’re more focused on our environment rather than on an external form of a calendar. So the ayurvedic and the Chinese medical tradition is coming from the perspective that we are immersed in the seasons, in the cycles, rather than an external cycle imposed upon us in the form of a calendar. That’s the thing that really resonates for me, where you’re really paying attention to what’s in season around you. What energies are happening around you and recognizing that your body is responding to those things, not just your body, but your spirit also is also responding to those things as the cycle moves. I like what you bring to it, too. It’s really very interesting because it’s very much the recognition of cycles, recognition of movement, constant movement and cycles. 

Rochana Felde [00:07:49] Yeah. I think when we see the calendar and it says that this beginning of spring is on the equinox. The vernal equinox is typically how it shows as the first day of spring in the modern calendar, and the modern calendar never resonated with me the way that it shows that. So once I started seeing how these systems and traditions think about the seasons, it made a lot more sense and I believe the way that it’s shown in the calendars astronomical season. And then what we’re doing, what we’re looking at is the light. I think I like the way that these traditional calendars look at not just the weather, but the light in the sky. And so many plants aren’t just responding to weather like is it raining? Is it not raining? But they’re responding to, you know, the light. What’s happened? You know how much light is happening in a given day and when that sunrise and sunset is. Don’t you agree? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:08:55] Oh, absolutely. And the funny thing is, is that somebody like me, who’s perpetually around animals and with animals and animals are a big part of my life. Certainly every horsewoman knows when spring or fall is coming because their horse will start shedding like crazy. You’ll see their coats start to change. And it happens with the dogs, too. In my experience, and certainly the birds will start changing their feathers, their plumage will start changing out. So all of a sudden you’ll start to see even in house animals, you’ll see these little indications of, oh, there’s a new season headed our way. So that’s kind of a funny little detail. But that I think is interesting. And it’s quite strange that I haven’t noticed anything in humans as far as shedding. But wouldn’t that be interesting if we were putting on a new coat for whatever season it is. I guess we have clothes for that. Bring out your spring outfits because your dog is letting you know that spring is on the way. 

Rochana Felde [00:09:58] Yeah. And I always was confused about, well, why is my dog shedding if it’s not hot? You know, like I’d thought it was about temperature at first. And then I again realized it’s just so much more innate than that. Just like the plant cycles are so much more innate. I mean, just as an aside, you know, the timing of things like bulbs sprouting out of the earth, like. I mean, it’s incredible. Right now, the daffodils are coming up when people and I always kick myself every year because I didn’t put my down daffodil bulbs in the ground. I’ve had this bag of daffodils for like five years. I’m like, I’m gonna get to putting those in the ground. But by the time I think about it, they’re already popping up. So it’s just amazing how they have these internal clocks that do their thing when the time is right. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:10:52] Yeah. And it’s the energetics that start to come, rising up out of the earth or, you know, whether you see it as being part of these planetary cycles or other things. It’s just it’s such a large force that we as modern humans pretend is no longer relevant. And yet it is really relevant to your day to day life. It’s really relevant to recognize that if, like me in the last few weeks with this rising spring energy, I’m feeling like I have so much to do and I get really frustrated and even a little crabby. (Imagine me getting crabby once in a while.. It happens) and finding myself just on edge. And that is Wood, Liver energy rising. And to recognize, that’s just part of the process. And so I’ll take some essences for that. Like Beech and Impatiens are really good essences to help you with those feelings of irritability that arise in the spring. And then I definitely do my acupressure and just try to be mindful of the energy right now. We don’t want to blow up on anybody, but just to recognize that it’s there and allow it to pass through. So Beech is one of the Bach essences and the shorthand for it is when you’re feeling “beechy”, it’s really good for irritation, irritability, general crabbiness. Also, some people feel like it’s useful for different types of skin eruptions and things like that, but you can see it as being heat in the system, and Beech helps to soothe that. And then Impatiens, which I mentioned earlier. Another Bach essence, really good for that rising energy where you start to feel impatient and irritable. And it’s like the world is not going at your pace and things are not working the way you want them to work. Impatiens can be a nice ally to help you settle into “OK, well, this is what’s happening.” And find a way to relax into it. 

Rochana Felde [00:13:09] Yeah. And I feel that Liver energy rising very intensely this spring. I mean, for me, it manifests with a lot of overthinking. I’ve got so many ideas and thought processes happening and projects that I’m starting, or in the middle of. I’m just going full throttle in my brain. And so I’m getting that mental overwork, burnout. That is interestingly a Liver symptom. So, yeah, I’m really feeling that. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:13:51] The Liver is considered the general of the body, and the Liver is in charge of making plans, executing plans, visioning plans. And so it’s really revved up right now. And like you say, it can use a little mediation sometimes where it’s like, “OK,  all of that but maybe not all of it right now. Let’s push out our plans for a little bit.” 

Rochana Felde [00:14:14] Yeah. And then what? Let’s look at what’s helping your physical liver. So we’ve been talking about the, you know, energetic liver. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:14:24] The capital L Liver from Chinese medicine. 

Rochana Felde [00:14:27] And then the physical liver also is working harder because it’s trying to clear all of this excess accumulation from the winter. So that’s why in all these forms of herbalism, there’s some sort of spring detox or detoxification assisting herbs that are employed. And I find it interesting that one of the major ones, Dandelion, is also a great flower essence energetic for the spring. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:15:07] For sure. I love it, it’s just so cool that like every tradition around the world knew this is the time to take these tonic bitter herbs, to enjoy green things, to start to help move things out of your system after the winter time. I love dandelion greens  sauteed with burdock. They’re wonderful. But the flower essence of dandelion is such a symbol of spring to me. Living in the city, you can see them popping through cracks and sidewalks and that energy of a seed dropping into a crack in a sidewalk and going, fine, I can do this. And it just punches through and just survives no matter what. It is so much that spring energy, that forcefulness. It’s grounded, it’s real. You know, it throws down a really deep root. So those who try to pull them out of gardens have a fun time with that. But that green leafy energy that pushes through that little crack to grow and then thrive and then turn into a beautiful flower – that is such the symbol of spring. Do you find that you use it for, you know, primarily that tension that arises when you’re trying to push? 

Rochana Felde [00:16:34] Yeah, well, I mean, it’s great topically for muscle tension and right in the back of the neck. When you just really feel that kind of constricting tension. FES has an oil called Dandelion Dynamo. It’s a really nice one for putting on the back of the neck. And I do the root herbally in my morning tea. It’s like a coffee substitute for me. I basically do that all year long but I kick it up with burdock root  and some other roots in the spring. And that helps that detoxification process, which isn’t just physical. I mean, we’re also talking about a mental detoxification process that’s just cleaning out things that maybe we’ve let fester over the winter or, you know, we’ve been more internal and done a lot of thinking or maybe self observation or or not. Maybe we’ve vegged out ,Netflixed out through the winter. But either way, it’s like let’s get things moving again and move it out of our body and our psyche. Clear things out and start fresh. It’s time for a fresh start. And I think of dandelion. I love it, too, when I see it coming up out of the cracks in the sidewalks, it’s so joyful and it’s such an indicator of hope on so many levels. You know, on one level, we have here is a plant that against all odds. You know, we’ve talked about before how people will spray roundup on it or do everything they can to eradicate it. And yet it persists and it persists. There’s no downside to Dandelion. I mean, what it does to the soil, what it does for our bodies, that we can eat all parts, the plant, the root, the leaf, the flower. And then we can have herbs and flower essences and food. So it just covers all the bases. Why do people hate it so much? It is one of those things that is a head scratcher. Like what is the deal against Dandelion? It’s such a cool plant and so useful and great in every possible way. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:19:06] I’m totally in agreement there. It’s such a symbol of that spring energy. And like you were saying the word movement, that’s exactly what the dandelion helps you do, helps you move these places in you that are stuck. These thoughts and beliefs and habits – things that they’re really ready to change. It’s time to get them moving. In the essence version… You know, we’re talking about all the different spectrums of herbal medicine. And the essence is that pure energetic, that vibration of the pattern, which is that movement, the way I see it. And so that concept about clearing and releasing, you know, I would I would certainly be thinking, if you’re working on that issue of wanting to keep clearing things out of your energetics of your field, using some of the clearing type formulas, such as Purification from the Alaskan Essences would be a really good companion for this season to help you release what you’re ready to let go of. You know, using the drops version in a nice soak in your tub, I think would be really cool. And then also just taking them as part of your whatever detox regimen you’re involved in. And, you know, I tend to lean more towards the gentle detoxing, you know, rather than really extreme forms of detox. I think that you’re in alignment with that, too. 

Rochana Felde [00:20:36] Yes, absolutely. Yeah. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:20:38] And so using an energetic detox like something like the Purification formula would be a really great addition to that or simply using that instead, especially when you’re a sensitive person, be really careful. And be kind to your body, doing extreme anything for a sensitive person is probably not the wisest course. I’m sure you would have something more to say about that. 

Rochana Felde [00:21:01] Oh, yeah. I. It’s interesting because culturally I think, you know, people think that they need to do extreme cleanses or detoxes. And I’ve had a lot of people ask me looking for herbs that, you know, what can they do to detox? And I always say, you know what? Your body detoxes, your body’s already detoxing. You don’t need an herb to detox, but you can support your detoxification system like the liver and the kidneys and the lymph. And so that’s how I like to approach it herbally. And you know, it we don’t have to do everything to the max. I think that… 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:21:47] But that’s how we do things. Sensible moderation is so boring. 

Rochana Felde [00:21:55] Yeah. Yeah. And like you said, especially if you’re sensitive, if you’re a highly sensitive person, or an empath, or somebody who feels things very deeply, then, you know, that also goes to what you’re putting in your body physically. And so that’s a case to start slow. And, you know, it’s always a good idea to start with a low dose of whatever you’re doing and and work up, rather than these very extreme cleanses or herbs that are very strong detoxifiers. You don’t need to start with that. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:22:40] Yeah. I think that’s one of the real strengths of Flower Essences, that they are safe for everybody to use. Just be sensible about not trying to do too much at once, just like with anything else. But with essences, there’s a built in safety feature of essences that you’re always going to be doing things in a gentle kind of way. So Purification is a good starting place. Also, think about some of the gems for clearing your energy fields. I just love Black Tourmaline gem elixir for clearing. Fluorite is really cool for clearing stuck places and blockages. If you feel like there’s a particular chakra that’s gotten blocked, using a gem elixir can help to unblock that area or chakra segment. 

Rochana Felde [00:23:33] Yeah, for me Aquamarine comes to mind because it’s just so cooling, you know, emotionally and mentally, and anything that’s cooling is going to be helpful for that. For the liver, you know, energy. Especially for the overworked, overheated mental things that are happening. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:23:53] Yeah. So are there any other clearing essences that you think about before we move into the visioning segment? 

Rochana Felde [00:24:00] Well, I like to look at some of the spring greens that are popping up right around now, chickweed and cleavers, miner’s lettuce. This is the time of year for chickweed. That’s Stellaria media, and it helps clear and repair the etheric field. It helps release old blockages, and I think it provides some spiritual nourishment as well. So that’s kind of interesting because it’s an edible. If you know how to identify it properly, you can pick it and put it in your salads. And the same with miner’s lettuce and cleavers. Cleavers is like Velcro, the Velcro plant, but it’s an excellent lymphatic cleanser. And then as a flower essence, it is also clearing and cleansing and it moves qi and stuck gunk that’s in our field. So I always remember it as scrubbing things clean inside our body, both herbally and essence wise. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:25:25] Cool. And these are essences that you’ve worked with yourself and made yourself. Because I’m not familiar with these ones as being from any of the primary companies. So these are essences that you have built relationships with yourself. 

Rochana Felde [00:25:40] Yep. That’s my Flora Luma line, which is only available to my clients and in my formulas. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:25:50] Yeah. Cool. That’s wonderful. There’s so much there’s so much bounty from nature and there’s so many different possibilities. And it’s always really lovely to have that one to one relationship or that one to one relationship extended that, you know, you’re getting medicine from somebody who is really connected to the plant. That’s always a really great way to go. And I’d like to transition into that next phase. We’ve talked about the detoxing, and the releasing, and letting things go. And now moving into what you were talking about, how you have so many ideas and so many possibilities, and how to create some clarity around what to do next and how to persevere. You know, ideas can be a dime a dozen, certainly at sometimes you just feel flooded with ideas. But to be able to be strategic about how you’re going to go about them and how you’re gonna take the energy that you have and turn it into something at the end rather than, you know, 80 unfinished projects. That’s to me always the real challenge of where the rubber meets the road of reality. I think about Blackberry as being a helpful essence in that context. And the Blackberry is in the Rosaceae, in the Rose family. So it has that heartfelt quality, but it also has that persevering quality. Like, let’s stick with this. Let’s keep going with our plans, with  our goals, to keep that energy steady enough to keep maintaining that forward momentum. 

Rochana Felde [00:27:31] I agree Blackberry is the one that definitely has the staying power. You can see by the way it grows on our way sides and no amount of cutting that back either makes it go away. So another plant with that kind of staying power quality is indicated.But Dandelion, too, I see for manifestation. And I see that in the plant signature, when its flower is done and it has the puffball at the top that you blow and make a wish. I mean it just takes that wish and puts it out into the field, into the universe. Just like as you blow the seeds, the seeds will go out. And so it really has that sort of intentional quality of whatever you put your desire to, you can make happen. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:28:39] I mean, that’s such a clear symbolic image. The whole plant of Dandelion rewards study, it rewards thinking about it, because it has so many facets and angles. And yeah, you’re right, that quality of dispersion of great ideas for the dispersion of your focus, to send it out into the world. It’s kind of like pushing publish.  

Rochana Felde [00:29:04] Exactly. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:29:08] Who knows where those seeds are gonna land and start to sprout and grow through little concrete cracks. Goodness knows. Everywhere. Possibly. Yeah, Larch is another one I think about. Larch has that hopeful courage, for sticking to it, for trying something a little bit different. You know, this energy of spring is not just about executing what we already know how to do, it’s about growing and stretching and expanding a little bit, trying new things. And Larch can be a great help for when you’re not feeling terrifically confident about this new thing that you’re trying or the new project you’re working on. And you just need a little help from the Larch to help bring you along. I have a Golden Larch in my series of Flora of Asia Essences that creates a slightly different quality where it helps to balance the ego center and the heart. It works between the solar plexus and the heart chakra where our ego can get ahead of us, get ahead of our heart. So this essence helps to balance those two and helps you be really aligned in your actions with your heart and your soul’s purpose. 

Rochana Felde [00:30:35] Yeah, I can see that with Larch. That’s a good one to bring up. Have you ever worked with California Bay Laurel? 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:30:43] No, I haven’t. I know the plant, but I don’t have any sort of impression of the essence quality. So please tell me. 

Rochana Felde [00:30:51] Yeah, well it’s blooming. I know I’m in a forest and there’s a lot of Bay Laurels around me. The blooms are amazing right now. It’s just filling the trees with these little yellowish flowers. But for those who aren’t familiar with the California Bay Laurel, it’s a lot like the bay leaves that you might use in cooking except times 10 in their smell and taste. They’re very, very strong, very fiery. And the smell just walking around them where they’re growing. It’s very strong. It has a very strong smell. So I look at that tree as one that’s helping find your inner fire. And it’s that energy of getting things done. And having a passion for life. And it really works with your vocation or your business. It’s very prolific, and it’s also very adaptive, because it can grow small as a bush or you can shape it as a hedge, but it also can grow as very large trees. And the other thing I find interesting about it is that typically a lot I see it growing out of the base of another tree. The oak tree, for example. And that’s that’s a really interesting thing. I’ve sort of pondered that a lot and sat with that a lot. I made a flower essence with one that was growing right out of the base of a big oak tree here. And I see that as not necessarily being parasitic or taking all the resources of the oak. They seem to be in a symbiotic relationship. And what I see it as doing is, it’s not afraid to tap on its resources. It’s not afraid to lean on its support resources. And I see that energy coming through with the flower essence. So here is a flower essence that can help you kind of be bold and make your move into your thing. But you’re not alone. You have resources. And so don’t hesitate to tap on those when you need it. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:33:27] Yeah, that’s interesting. That topic of, you know, being bold and going out and doing and trying. The essence that comes to mind for me when I think about that is Alder. Alaskan Essences makes an Alder, and I have a Japanese species of alder that that I work with. But the whole plant’s signature, the alder tree is interesting. If you look at the tree itself, they have that white bark. And the white bark is a natural sunscreen in the same way that birches and aspens also have that whitish bark. So these are trees that can grow out alone. They can grow out first. They are able to pioneer areas. So Alders oftentimes are growing in riverbeds. So when the floods come through and blast an area clear and nothing’s growing there an Alder can take root and grow in that area, or where there’s been a landslide or something. They don’t require a nursery environment, like a lot of hardwood trees need, that support of a forest around them for shade and for a certain amount of wind protection as well as shade and water. An alder can do that on its own. It doesn’t have to be around other trees in order to grow and thrive. It has that ability to be a pioneer species because it doesn’t need shade, because it has its own sun protection built in. So that’s a long way around talking about Alder being a plant that helps, that’s an ally to us as an essence, helping us to strike new territory and to do things that we haven’t done before or that no one’s done before, to have that courage to try something different, try something new and to be successful at it. 

Rochana Felde [00:35:24] That’s interesting to think about plants as pioneers, that there’re some that are and then some that need others to go first. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:35:32] Yeah, every niche, every personality, is in the plant kingdom already. So we can find support no matter what we’re doing. But yeah, alders are very interesting to me. Were there any other ones that you’d like to talk about for that topic? Maybe some gems that are worthwhile? I mean, once again, that Aquamarine comes to mind for me, for that clarity of thought, clarity of mind, so that you can really, you know, take all your plans and take all your ideas and really distill them into “today I’m going to take action on this”. That’s one that I think of for this topic. 

Rochana Felde [00:36:17] Well, for clarity. Thinking about Optical Calcite, are all also known as Iceland Spar is the one that I see that is very, very good for that. Also Diamond and Herkimer Diamond. You know, those clear gems that have clarity within them. And that really translates to to their essences. So, yeah, I when you say that I think about optical calcite. Yeah. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:36:53] And I’ll just bounce off of that because when you’re talking about that, it makes me think of Go Create, which is a really cool formula that the Alaskan Essences make, which is an essence designed to help you manifest. So it’s designed to help you be creative and do new things. And so I think it’s a perfect cap on this topic of helping you take this spring energy and do something really beautiful and concrete with it, and helping you to use it to launch whatever project you’re doing. You know, once again, this falls into where we were starting. The energy of the season is something that we can work with or work against. And the energy of spring is all about expressing ourselves, trying new things, working on projects, maybe not working on all of them exactly at the same time, but that sort of energetic. And so we can be using and harnessing that spring energy in our lives in ways that really are in alignment with the seasons. 

Rochana Felde [00:37:52] Yeah, sounds great. We just need to maintain some balance so we don’t overdo it. Maybe throw some Aloe in there for the overworked mental state. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:38:03] What a great idea. Yes, Aloe. I hadn’t even thought about it, but you are totally right about that cooling quality. I use the one from Desert Alchemy. But there’s also one from the Flower Essence Society. Are you familiar with either of those or both of those? 

Rochana Felde [00:38:23] I made my own, of course. But also, what’s the one..Nasturtium. That’s another. That’s great for that overworked mental processing. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:38:37] Yeah. So that’s the next step down the road when you’ve done a little bit too much, when you’ve moved all the energetics and your visioning and working and working and working and you pushed it a little bit too far. Those are some essences to help reel you back into reality land and not burn yourself out before we even get to the spring equinox. 

Rochana Felde [00:38:59] Exactly. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:39:02] So I think we’ve done a nice little loop around here. Coming back to the qualities of spring. Are there any other little parting thoughts you had? Oh, I wanted to talk about your diagram. You made this really cool graphic of the seasons that I think that everyone should be able to see. So I’ll make sure to put a link of it in our show notes. It’s a beautiful graphic that shows the overlaps and the  interactions between the seasons from multiple perspectives and world cultures. So I really enjoyed seeing that and I want to make sure that people can see it.

Rochana Felde [00:39:39] Great. Yeah. We will make that available. 

Kathleen Aspenns [00:39:41] Yeah. And I’ll be sure to put a link in the show notes also about an article that I wrote for Sentire magazine.They’re not publishing at the moment, but it is a wonderful online flower essence journal with beautiful long form articles. It’s really worth checking out as a magazine. I have published on my site an article that I wrote for last year’s edition, on the spring and how flower essences and Chinese medicine theory come together in essences for spring. So I’ll be sure to put that in the show notes as well. I really enjoyed that it goes deep in two different facets of working with anger, that Liver emotion. We’ll have to do a whole episode on the topic of anger. That goes on the list. The list gets longer with everyone that we do. But we’d love to hear from you if you have a favorite topic that you would like to hear us cover on the Flower Essence Podcast. We really enjoy interacting with you and we love hearing your experiences and your responses to what we talk about because it’s really about connecting the community through our roots. Right. We all want to be more connected in community and the podcast..Ro and I we love to connect with our far flung flower essence loving family. So please stay in touch with us. We’d love to continue the conversation. And let us know what you’re interested in and what you’ve enjoyed about podcasts that we’ve already done. You can catch us on anywhere you catch podcasts, and also stay in touch on Facebook and Instagram. See you next time.  

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